This module seems to duplicate the functionality provided by CMF module (http://drupal.org/project/cmf)

Perhaps it would make sense to join forces? if not - what are the differences, pros/cons between the two modules?

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lpalgarvio’s picture

Title: steal/merge some modules... » steal Content Management Filter and Administration Views (admin_menu)
Category: feature » task

"steal" administration views from administration menu (admin_menu) 3.x module

lpalgarvio’s picture

Title: Combine efforts with Content Management Filter » steal/merge some modules...
Category: task » feature
Issue tags: +views, +Admin Menu

steal Manager module

check Content Administration module

lpalgarvio’s picture

rcross’s picture

Title: steal Content Management Filter and Administration Views (admin_menu) » steal/merge some modules...
Category: task » feature

i'm not sure i understand your comments... can you explain in more detail?

lpalgarvio’s picture

This module provides an improved admin page, replacing /admin/content/node in Drupal core This screenshot provides a good feel for what it does.

what i am proposing is to extend Improved Admin module by "stealing" ideas and code from the following modules:
Improved Admin: nodes, with Views + VBO + OG Views + Pathauto + Content Translation
Administration Menu: nodes, comments, taxonomy and users, with Views
User Management: users, with Views + VBO
Manager: nodes, with Views + VBO
Content Management Filter: nodes and comments, with custom code
Node Admin: node, with custom code

so that Improved Admin becames the best solution for adding a better manager of Nodes, Comments, Taxonomy and Users, by using Views, VBO and other related modules,

effectively merging these modules in and deprecating them, and thus reducing duplication efforts and confusion, for an improved and better supported solution (improved admin).
User Management: #1235170: similar modules, deprecate
Manager: #958520: similar modules, deprecate
Content Management Filter: #1236002: similar modules, deprecate
Node Admin: #592416: similar modules, deprecate

NancyDru’s picture

CMF does not require Views. This looks like a useful module, but, believe it or not, I actually have sites without Views at all. That may or may not continue when I convert them to D7, but I doubt I am the only person in the world who has developed sites without using Views.

lpalgarvio’s picture

let's compile a usage list,

Reported installs as of 01 Aug 2011:
Improved Admin: 214
Administration Menu: does not count because it also bundles a widely used menu
User Management: 161
Manager: 417
Content Management Filter: 7515
Node Admin: 629

Caveats:
Improved Admin - main solution with Views
Content Management Filter - secondary solution without Views

Perhaps the best approach is to do this by phases:
a) NOW:
...a1) mark Node Admin as "Obsolete" - Content Management Filter and Improved Admin should be the main alternatives.
...a2) state in the project pages what is happening, with a link to this issue and another to Improved Admin and Content Management Filter project page.
...a3) mark the alternatives with "Minimaly maintained" and "No further Development".
b) when a stable version on Improved Admin occurs, list Improved Admin as highly recommended.
c) when a higher usage count (>400) occurs, mark Manager as "Obsolete".
d) when Comment, Taxonomy and User functionality are added to Improved Admin, mark User Management as "Obsolete"; release a D7 version (Views 3.x)
e) when a higher usage count (>600-1000) indeed occurs, contact Administration Menu.
f) if and when Content Management Filter usage starts to drop fast... TBD.

i seriously doubt Administration Menu will ever drop the admin views sub-module. here's why:
#958534: admin_menu views vs manager

timtunbridge’s picture

+1

Taxoman’s picture

Title: steal/merge some modules... » Improved Admin: merge some modules

Subscribing - nice writeup in #7.

BrightBold’s picture

Subscribing. Interested in how this progresses and what gets ported to D7.

Kvart’s picture

Sub

palpatine1976’s picture

Subscribing. The out-of-the-box D7 admin for content management (/admin/content/node) is sadly lacking.

orican’s picture

Subscribing

BrightBold’s picture

@orican: You don't need to post a comment to subscribe any more. Just click the "Follow" button at the top right of the issue page. Stop subscribing, start following!

denix’s picture

can we move the version to 7.x?

Denis

lpalgarvio’s picture

sure

rcross’s picture

its worth noting that none of these projects have a stable D7 version.

Admin_menu has a strong RC and Manager has an Alpha release, the rest don't seem to have any D7 Activity.

lpalgarvio’s picture

not exactly true.

what i anticipated has come to happen -- admin_views was moved out of admin_menu, and now its a separate module:
http://drupal.org/project/admin_views

seems to be the latest, most up to date and maintained module, with the biggest feature set

it uses Views and VBO, and has a D6 (alpha) and D7 (stable) branch.
it's bundled with basic views that imitate drupal core interface, but can be easily adapted to each scenario.

from what i've tested and compared in the D7, it's now the top solution

lpalgarvio’s picture

Issues:
Administration Views: no issue
Administration Menu: #958534: admin_menu views vs manager
User Management: #1235170: similar modules, deprecate
Manager: #958520: similar modules, deprecate
Content Management Filter: #1236002: similar modules, deprecate
Node Admin/Content Administration: #592416: similar modules, deprecate

Versions as of 19 Sep 2012:
Administration Views: 7.x-1.0 (2012-Sep-09), 6.x-1.0-alpha1 (2012-May-31)
Administration Menu: feature moved to admin_views
Improved Admin: 6.x-1.0-beta1 (2010-Dec-09) (no activity)
User Management: 6.x-1.0 (2010-Nov-22) (no activity)
Manager: 7.x-1.0-alpha1 (2011-May-31), 6.x-1.0-rc3 (2010-May-25) (no activity)
Content Management Filter: 6.x-2.01 (2011-Feb-22) (recent commits)
Node Admin/Content Administration: 6.x-1.0-beta2 (2009-Apr-24) (no activity)

Reported installs as of 19 Sep 2012:
Administration Views: 2079 (+2079, +2079%)
Administration Menu: feature moved to admin_views
Improved Admin: 331 (+117, +55%)
User Management: 217 (+56, +35%)
Manager: 217 (-200, -48%)
Content Management Filter: 8295 (+780, +10%)
Node Admin/Content Administration: 432 (-197, -31%)

Reported installs as of 01 Aug 2011:
Administration Views: did not exist yet
Administration Menu: feature moved to admin_views
Improved Admin: 214
User Management: 161
Manager: 417
Content Management Filter: 7515
Node Admin/Content Administration: 629

Conclusion - modules in development:
Administration Views: 4 active devs, 1 week ago
Content Management Filter: 3 devs (1 active), 3 weeks ago
(the others have no recent activity)

Conclusion - modules in growth:
Administration Views: +2079%
Improved Admin: +55%
User Management: +35%
Content Management Filter: +10%
(the others had negative growth)

lpalgarvio’s picture

Title: Improved Admin: merge some modules » similar modules, deprecate
Component: Code » Documentation
Category: feature » task
Priority: Normal » Critical

that basically means among other things, the best path is Admin Views,
and at least, Improved Admin, User Management, Manager and Node Admin/Content Administration modules should be deprecated.

ranx’s picture

Another interesting admin dashboard module:

http://drupal.org/project/total_control

klonos’s picture

Title: similar modules, deprecate » Improved Admin: deprecate similar modules

...sorry for the title edit, but this is less vague for our dashboards.

lpalgarvio’s picture

Title: Improved Admin: deprecate similar modules » Improved Admin: similar modules, deprecate

#21 - that is true. i've known it for quite a while, but it's a much more complicated solution and doesn't replaces the default pages (last time i checked)

#22 - you're right! making another change.

lpalgarvio’s picture

By now, Administration Views seems to be the most active and supported module (may not have the most installs)

These have been deprecated:
Administration Menu: #958534: admin_menu views vs manager
User Management: #1235170: similar modules, deprecate

These don't seem active:
Manager: #958520: similar modules, deprecate
Content Management Filter: #1236002: similar modules, deprecate
Node Admin/Content Administration: #592416: similar modules, deprecate

Up to you what to do, if anything, from now on

allenfantasy’s picture

Just a note: Administration Menu is still being actively maintained - and very useful.