WEBVTT 81 00:09:14.020 --> 00:09:29.960 Aaron McHale: welcome. This is the triple usability meeting for the third of february 2023. I'm. I'm Mikhail moderates in the meeting, and with us today we have Ralph Coler, Simon, Helen. And is 82 00:09:30.560 --> 00:09:34.849 Aaron McHale: It's fun? Oh, wow, i'm got it names. 83 00:09:35.570 --> 00:09:45.129 Aaron McHale: That's course. Yeah, okay, I normally. I i'm terrible. It's so. There we go. 84 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:46.780 Yeah. 85 00:09:46.800 --> 00:09:47.760 Aaron McHale: Okay. 86 00:09:48.900 --> 00:09:56.600 Aaron McHale: We have a few, quite a number of issues on the a sort of carry forward agenda here. 87 00:09:56.900 --> 00:10:04.409 Aaron McHale: and i'll just say that I'm going to try and monitor the chat for any anyone who wants type in the chat 88 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:06.819 Aaron McHale: do that. And 89 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.140 Aaron McHale: yeah, I guess we'll start. 90 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:13.310 Aaron McHale: I think we said we were going to look at. 91 00:10:13.370 --> 00:10:16.269 Aaron McHale: This is an issue here about. 92 00:10:16.560 --> 00:10:21.349 Aaron McHale: We does the redirect to add block form in the content form. 93 00:10:23.630 --> 00:10:24.750 Aaron McHale: So 94 00:10:24.880 --> 00:10:31.310 Aaron McHale: this is issue Number 3, 3, 2, 5, 1, 6, 7, 95 00:10:31.610 --> 00:10:32.540 Aaron McHale: And 96 00:10:32.750 --> 00:10:35.170 Aaron McHale: the problem here is. 97 00:10:35.190 --> 00:10:38.859 Aaron McHale: I should say it's. It's quite relevant to the work we've been doing on the 98 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:50.060 Aaron McHale: so. If reorganizing the admin Ui run block, the right blocks, and what haunted so this is particularly relevant to the issue and the moving the custom block library to content. 99 00:10:51.030 --> 00:10:57.860 Aaron McHale: So when you submit the block content, add form. You're redirected to the add block, the play slot form 100 00:10:58.130 --> 00:11:06.670 Aaron McHale: from a newly added block content. Item: this makes sense because it's a block content, only being used in the global page layout. 101 00:11:06.700 --> 00:11:11.690 Aaron McHale: But when they have to play a builder. It no longer makes sense 102 00:11:11.710 --> 00:11:12.669 Aaron McHale: on the 103 00:11:14.990 --> 00:11:19.929 Aaron McHale: when on the block contact, for when the block content is being created for the first time 104 00:11:19.970 --> 00:11:28.219 Aaron McHale: and the secondary action, save in place. I have this button to the redirect have exist, and save but and redirect back to the block library 105 00:11:28.260 --> 00:11:34.159 Aaron McHale: a similar pattern with terms where we have to save buttons, one that returns to the list, and one that 106 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.400 Aaron McHale: reloads the add form ready for additional terms, and I can. 107 00:11:38.540 --> 00:11:43.449 Aaron McHale: I'll just jump over to the site I set up, and we can demonstrate that. So I guess probably. 108 00:11:43.540 --> 00:11:48.440 Aaron McHale: and i'll just. We'll go and have a look at types of these, so we can see what it's referring to here. 109 00:11:48.560 --> 00:11:53.360 Aaron McHale: And so obviously, this is a mammy demo. So we have the rest of the category. So I will 110 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:54.990 Aaron McHale: use that. 111 00:11:55.460 --> 00:11:56.430 Aaron McHale: And you. 112 00:11:57.160 --> 00:11:58.780 Aaron McHale: if I go to add a term. 113 00:11:59.740 --> 00:12:05.070 Aaron McHale: we have 2 state buttons we have to save, and then save and go to list, so i'll just 114 00:12:05.510 --> 00:12:07.969 Aaron McHale: they want to call test to 115 00:12:08.360 --> 00:12:15.640 Aaron McHale: demonstrate this. If I hit save it takes me. Okay. So I stay on the odds time form. 116 00:12:16.010 --> 00:12:17.810 Aaron McHale: I'll do text 2, 117 00:12:18.110 --> 00:12:22.049 Aaron McHale: and then I go to save and go to list and fix that to the list, so that 118 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:25.429 Aaron McHale: that is the behavior for terms. And then. 119 00:12:25.800 --> 00:12:29.540 Aaron McHale: if we go to structure. 120 00:12:30.130 --> 00:12:31.620 Aaron McHale: block layer. 121 00:12:31.660 --> 00:12:33.360 Aaron McHale: custom, block, library. 122 00:12:33.490 --> 00:12:40.949 Aaron McHale: and of course we don't have block types here, because in 10.1 that is now under its own heading structure. So 123 00:12:41.820 --> 00:12:44.410 Aaron McHale: But if I come to add a custom block. 124 00:12:44.850 --> 00:12:56.640 Aaron McHale: let's go with a basic look. I guess so we have save button and like on this one test. I'm very creative to say with my names for things. Everything is just a test. 125 00:12:56.860 --> 00:12:58.100 no head save. 126 00:12:59.710 --> 00:13:03.880 Aaron McHale: and it takes you to. Okay, so that's just what library 127 00:13:03.930 --> 00:13:06.860 Aaron McHale: and let me just check it might be because 128 00:13:07.280 --> 00:13:11.649 Aaron McHale: there's a destination here. So let me just double check what the issue said again. 129 00:13:12.950 --> 00:13:14.640 Aaron McHale: So go to Block. Add. 130 00:13:14.690 --> 00:13:17.529 Aaron McHale: Oh, yes, if you go directly to Block ads. 131 00:13:18.690 --> 00:13:20.910 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So if I go to block 132 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.820 Aaron McHale: just to block and like this 133 00:13:24.130 --> 00:13:26.590 Aaron McHale: without the redirect it should. 134 00:13:27.710 --> 00:13:29.670 Aaron McHale: It's on another test block. Here 135 00:13:32.160 --> 00:13:33.590 Aaron McHale: I hit save 136 00:13:35.060 --> 00:13:38.209 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So this time it takes me to the configure block form. 137 00:13:38.820 --> 00:13:41.419 Aaron McHale: and that is, for 138 00:13:41.860 --> 00:13:44.439 Aaron McHale: I guess this is for adding 139 00:13:45.270 --> 00:13:47.090 Aaron McHale: it to the 140 00:13:48.550 --> 00:13:53.630 Aaron McHale: yeah it's for adding it to region so like I could add to the content region, for instance. 141 00:13:55.290 --> 00:13:57.039 Aaron McHale: And if I saved that. 142 00:13:58.490 --> 00:14:01.550 Aaron McHale: I would now see that block and 143 00:14:01.860 --> 00:14:07.610 Aaron McHale: so many regions yeah, here under the content. So that's kind of the problem, and 144 00:14:09.050 --> 00:14:16.399 Aaron McHale: that will become, I guess, even more problematic when the Custom block library gets moved over to 145 00:14:16.460 --> 00:14:18.410 Aaron McHale: content over here. 146 00:14:18.440 --> 00:14:27.199 Aaron McHale: which is what the is, which is what we're doing in issue 2, 8, 6, 2, 5, 6, 4 move custom, block library to content. 147 00:14:27.820 --> 00:14:29.050 Aaron McHale: So. 148 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:36.479 Aaron McHale: as it says, the the proposed resolution is to just add a add an additional button. So. 149 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:43.570 Aaron McHale: and I guess the thing we could probably do here is make some recommendations, you know, either agree with this or make some recommendations. 150 00:14:43.850 --> 00:14:44.670 Aaron McHale: And 151 00:14:45.020 --> 00:14:46.500 Aaron McHale: so if I come back 152 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:48.370 Aaron McHale: to 153 00:14:49.750 --> 00:14:55.949 Aaron McHale: yeah the block, add form and let me just open up the tax on me term one again. So we go 154 00:14:56.060 --> 00:14:58.440 Aaron McHale: something to compare to. 155 00:15:00.790 --> 00:15:06.560 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So does that make sense to everybody? Or is there anything that I should clarify, for on that 156 00:15:09.890 --> 00:15:11.089 Simo Hellsten: I have. 157 00:15:11.250 --> 00:15:13.230 Simo Hellsten: It's not really unclear about the 158 00:15:13.640 --> 00:15:16.859 Simo Hellsten: how much do we use those destinations 159 00:15:18.260 --> 00:15:20.589 Simo Hellsten: like? That's a good question. 160 00:15:20.690 --> 00:15:28.560 Simo Hellsten: Because if we if it's something that's normally used, then we could have something that could check 161 00:15:29.100 --> 00:15:34.740 Simo Hellsten: and update that kind of a button based on that or something like that, but 162 00:15:35.660 --> 00:15:42.440 Simo Hellsten: but not sure if it's a good idea. But what was wondering. Because, yeah, that's sometimes kind of 163 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:50.390 Simo Hellsten: it's not always there, but it's sometimes the destination. And sometimes it can be a bit confusing also because of that. 164 00:15:51.180 --> 00:16:00.179 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So I think, if so, the destination is usually added, is is quite commonly added throughout course. So like if I 165 00:16:00.240 --> 00:16:02.920 Aaron McHale: click on the add custom block 166 00:16:03.090 --> 00:16:12.439 Aaron McHale: here, it's gonna append that destination to the end of the AD URL, and I guess that follows me through. Yeah. So that follows me through when I 167 00:16:13.820 --> 00:16:15.810 Aaron McHale: through to this form. So 168 00:16:16.050 --> 00:16:21.320 Aaron McHale: yeah, this save box, and we'll, we'll take you to that destination, which 169 00:16:21.750 --> 00:16:30.789 Aaron McHale: i'm not sure if it's a good thing or not. If it's better to just have those buttons that you can choose where you want to go like we have on tax only because 170 00:16:31.780 --> 00:16:38.799 Aaron McHale: I guess the the save and go to go to list. But obviously it doesn't it doesn't care about what the destination is. 171 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:42.099 Aaron McHale: And actually this doesn't have a destination. So 172 00:16:42.680 --> 00:16:44.150 Aaron McHale: I mean it's just 173 00:16:47.150 --> 00:16:48.510 Aaron McHale: do I have to do it like 174 00:16:49.010 --> 00:16:51.440 Aaron McHale: you just do like that and see what it does 175 00:16:52.890 --> 00:16:54.169 Aaron McHale: if I do. 176 00:16:54.960 --> 00:17:02.669 Aaron McHale: Oh, that's interesting. So the Save button actually goes. Okay, right? So if there's a destination, the additional save button actually goes away. 177 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:04.960 Aaron McHale: That's really interesting. 178 00:17:06.329 --> 00:17:08.179 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So for adding a term 179 00:17:09.260 --> 00:17:13.070 Aaron McHale: there's 2 safe buttons with no destination, and there is. 180 00:17:14.050 --> 00:17:17.529 Aaron McHale: if you put a destination in you only get one save button. 181 00:17:17.869 --> 00:17:21.729 Aaron McHale: so that if I click that which should take me to Yep. 182 00:17:21.950 --> 00:17:24.180 Aaron McHale: the slash, Admin or L. 183 00:17:24.310 --> 00:17:25.109 Aaron McHale: So 184 00:17:25.450 --> 00:17:34.419 Aaron McHale: Yeah, that's interesting, that pattern, I guess, to answer your question, yeah, is destination is something that we use across different parts of core, and 185 00:17:35.820 --> 00:17:40.419 Aaron McHale: it definitely has an effect on the on the Save button, the behavior of the Save button. 186 00:17:42.850 --> 00:17:48.159 Simo Hellsten: I think it would be nice to be able to communicate the destination somewhere 187 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.510 Simo Hellsten: near to that submit button. 188 00:17:52.390 --> 00:18:01.969 Simo Hellsten: so that because that's something that sometimes confuses, because the button always looks the same. But what it does can be different like the destination. 189 00:18:02.880 --> 00:18:07.510 Simo Hellsten: But that's on another issue, I guess. Yeah, we we could definitely 190 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:10.510 Aaron McHale: suggest that it's like a follow up or something. 191 00:18:17.700 --> 00:18:20.149 Aaron McHale: But I see for has joined us. 192 00:18:24.040 --> 00:18:33.909 Aaron McHale: Okay, is there any specific suggestions around the idea of of having like a save, and then a save and place button. 193 00:18:33.950 --> 00:18:34.700 Aaron McHale: And 194 00:18:35.440 --> 00:18:38.079 Aaron McHale: I know there's some other. 195 00:18:38.250 --> 00:18:43.330 Aaron McHale: Some other frameworks have similar approaches. Where, for instance, I 196 00:18:43.900 --> 00:18:57.360 Aaron McHale: that in in Python, the dangle framework any when anytime you go to add, like any kind of object or entity, you get you get like a a a save offs end, but you also get like a save and 197 00:18:57.660 --> 00:19:04.449 Aaron McHale: save and continue editing, or you gotta save and add another. So they have like 3 3 different save buttons, which i'm quite 198 00:19:04.490 --> 00:19:12.659 Aaron McHale: quite a fan of the idea actually, especially if you're adding a lot of things you can just, you know, save and add another or saving continue editing, so that 199 00:19:12.790 --> 00:19:15.349 Aaron McHale: it's an issue. I've actually been meeting to file. 200 00:19:17.450 --> 00:19:21.700 Simo Hellsten: That's also something that's with some versions of commerce. At least 201 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:34.970 Aaron McHale: so 202 00:19:37.030 --> 00:19:41.789 Aaron McHale: do it. Does everybody agree with the idea of a a saver and place button 203 00:19:42.570 --> 00:19:44.640 Aaron McHale: as like a second reaction button. 204 00:19:47.810 --> 00:19:51.749 Simo Hellsten: Is it only placing, or I? I was thinking kind of 205 00:19:51.770 --> 00:19:55.839 Simo Hellsten: in my head? I think about configure save and configure. But 206 00:19:57.720 --> 00:19:59.290 Simo Hellsten: yeah, because we saw. 207 00:20:00.060 --> 00:20:00.860 Ralf Koller: because 208 00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:06.490 Ralf Koller: that is something. I also wanted to such as safe and configure that you don't go onto the 209 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:16.050 Ralf Koller: lay on a block layout page, and instead go to the configure page where you're able to set the visibility as well as the region. 210 00:20:16.140 --> 00:20:17.580 Ralf Koller: So you I 211 00:20:17.860 --> 00:20:21.290 Ralf Koller: right, even more capable 212 00:20:21.530 --> 00:20:24.040 Aaron McHale: of a trusting yeah, everything. So. 213 00:20:24.980 --> 00:20:26.710 Aaron McHale: So by trying to add this one. 214 00:20:27.790 --> 00:20:29.019 Okay. 215 00:20:29.860 --> 00:20:31.419 Aaron McHale: test 3. 216 00:20:33.120 --> 00:20:37.729 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So it takes me to the configurable page, which in itself is not like 217 00:20:38.420 --> 00:20:48.880 Aaron McHale: like I first. I wasn't even even though I know I've seen this page before like at first. I wasn't entirely clear. It took me a second to remember what exactly this page does. 218 00:20:53.120 --> 00:20:54.660 Aaron McHale: because you're really you're. 219 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:04.730 Aaron McHale: You know, when you When you select the region, then it places the block in that region, but it also is, you're configuring how it displays on your site. 220 00:21:06.940 --> 00:21:11.150 Aaron McHale: So maybe there's some work needed for this page to 221 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:15.580 Aaron McHale: better describe what happens when you get here. 222 00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:43.680 Aaron McHale: So. 223 00:21:44.490 --> 00:21:48.629 Aaron McHale: Yeah, Ralph, you'd suggested like a save. And if I go back 224 00:21:49.430 --> 00:21:53.129 Aaron McHale: to the screen you'd suggest it, save and save and configure. 225 00:21:55.370 --> 00:21:58.370 Ralf Koller: Or, as Simo said, also, Yep. 226 00:21:58.710 --> 00:21:59.560 Aaron McHale: yeah. 227 00:22:02.290 --> 00:22:06.600 Aaron McHale: I guess i'm thinking like if you were coming to the you know, if you're adding a block 228 00:22:07.780 --> 00:22:09.260 Aaron McHale: that your 229 00:22:09.780 --> 00:22:12.139 Aaron McHale: like, if you're coming here from, say your end. 230 00:22:13.420 --> 00:22:14.310 Aaron McHale: you know, saving 231 00:22:14.510 --> 00:22:15.580 Aaron McHale: content. 232 00:22:15.610 --> 00:22:16.750 Aaron McHale: Open twice. 233 00:22:17.500 --> 00:22:18.130 Aaron McHale: Yep. 234 00:22:18.320 --> 00:22:23.460 Aaron McHale: Sarah, and content in the you know You click on the future block library, tab here. 235 00:22:23.780 --> 00:22:26.400 Aaron McHale: and then you go to the block? I'm wondering if like 236 00:22:26.430 --> 00:22:31.819 Aaron McHale: would that would would save and configure, make sense, or even would save in place makes sense. 237 00:22:32.840 --> 00:22:35.310 Aaron McHale: When you're on this page. 238 00:22:38.370 --> 00:22:40.100 Aaron McHale: I guess it would be my question. 239 00:22:56.150 --> 00:22:58.390 Ralf Koller: I'll say I can configure some 240 00:22:58.700 --> 00:23:02.549 Ralf Koller: also already includes safe in place. So 241 00:23:03.120 --> 00:23:04.030 Aaron McHale: right 242 00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:10.960 Ralf Koller: yeah, a bit more granularity and 243 00:23:11.300 --> 00:23:12.400 Ralf Koller: ability to 244 00:23:14.350 --> 00:23:15.850 Ralf Koller: configure everything. 245 00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:22.530 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I wonder if then, when you get here? 246 00:23:23.520 --> 00:23:25.149 Aaron McHale: So saving configure. 247 00:23:26.190 --> 00:23:27.180 Aaron McHale: should this 248 00:23:27.500 --> 00:23:30.099 Aaron McHale: should there be more indication on this page to like. 249 00:23:30.860 --> 00:23:36.220 Aaron McHale: you know, save blocks. Should that say place block, or maybe this should say configure and place lock 250 00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:50.089 Ralf Koller: it isn't only about placing. You're also able to set the visibility, for example. So 251 00:23:50.260 --> 00:23:51.780 Ralf Koller: it's a bit misleading it's 252 00:23:52.130 --> 00:23:53.080 Ralf Koller: more. 253 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.900 Ralf Koller: There is a bit of a disconnect between all 254 00:23:57.990 --> 00:24:03.120 Ralf Koller: comprehension wise that you have first the content of a block, and then the 255 00:24:03.730 --> 00:24:08.239 Ralf Koller: configuration of a clock and the disconnected windows 2, 256 00:24:08.550 --> 00:24:09.410 Ralf Koller: Usually 257 00:24:11.600 --> 00:24:12.550 Ralf Koller: it's something 258 00:24:12.750 --> 00:24:13.790 Aaron McHale: I yeah 259 00:24:13.810 --> 00:24:14.890 Ralf Koller: understood 260 00:24:15.220 --> 00:24:16.519 Ralf Koller: not that long ago. 261 00:24:17.170 --> 00:24:18.880 Ralf Koller: And wasn't aware of. So 262 00:24:20.940 --> 00:24:24.250 Aaron McHale: I I guess the the visibility options here which 263 00:24:25.230 --> 00:24:30.319 Aaron McHale: only apply to the block when it's placed in one of these regions. 264 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:40.809 Aaron McHale: So like, if you place it in in content, and then you set. You know you set some visibility settings here, and you say, place in the content region which you. You do have to select a region 265 00:24:40.860 --> 00:24:42.860 Aaron McHale: on this form 266 00:24:43.040 --> 00:24:47.290 Aaron McHale: that would apply to the specific like instance of this block 267 00:24:48.330 --> 00:24:49.400 in that region. 268 00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:06.540 Simo Hellsten: Does anyone remember it rose. 269 00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.870 Simo Hellsten: rule restrictions apply. 270 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:11.620 Simo Hellsten: If the block is 271 00:25:13.220 --> 00:25:14.440 Simo Hellsten: that invite up 272 00:25:14.840 --> 00:25:15.680 Simo Hellsten: twig. 273 00:25:15.950 --> 00:25:17.570 Simo Hellsten: if it's like a 274 00:25:18.190 --> 00:25:21.380 Simo Hellsten: I did in twig templates. Do those role 275 00:25:21.470 --> 00:25:23.660 Simo Hellsten: restrictions apply? Then 276 00:25:25.280 --> 00:25:30.539 Aaron McHale: I wouldn't have thought so, because these only these are these visibility conditions only 277 00:25:30.900 --> 00:25:32.320 Aaron McHale: relevant to 278 00:25:32.560 --> 00:25:33.580 Aaron McHale: the 279 00:25:34.210 --> 00:25:38.740 Aaron McHale: the block within the layer. So like, if I come to here to block layer 280 00:25:40.890 --> 00:25:44.659 Aaron McHale: like I can configure when I come here and configure 281 00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:48.520 Aaron McHale: I can like add a condition 282 00:25:49.060 --> 00:25:51.200 Aaron McHale: like, say, also an editor. 283 00:25:52.890 --> 00:25:54.180 Aaron McHale: But if I then 284 00:25:54.260 --> 00:25:54.940 Aaron McHale: not 285 00:25:56.600 --> 00:26:00.790 Aaron McHale: another instance I can add, like another instance of test to. 286 00:26:01.830 --> 00:26:03.200 Aaron McHale: and I can say 287 00:26:03.350 --> 00:26:04.520 Aaron McHale: on here 288 00:26:05.410 --> 00:26:09.309 Aaron McHale: like it doesn't, you know I can say Well, this one is visible to administrators. 289 00:26:12.090 --> 00:26:18.619 Aaron McHale: So you can basically have 2 instances of the same block, but have different visibility settings. So I think 290 00:26:18.860 --> 00:26:25.629 Aaron McHale: it really is just applicable to when you're in this part of the interface. 291 00:26:25.770 --> 00:26:32.910 Aaron McHale: And interestingly so, this workflow. So you place a block and then the button. Here's this place, block like page title. 292 00:26:33.530 --> 00:26:37.330 Aaron McHale: And then this is configure block, obviously because it's the same form. 293 00:26:37.870 --> 00:26:39.989 Aaron McHale: And here you go in and configure. 294 00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.159 Aaron McHale: Yeah, let's say, look, I wonder what the button is if you come 295 00:26:49.900 --> 00:26:53.430 Aaron McHale: to come back into here, so I wouldn't pay much attention. But there. 296 00:26:53.730 --> 00:26:56.730 Aaron McHale: submit button here says 297 00:26:57.080 --> 00:27:00.710 Aaron McHale: Save Block again. So 298 00:27:01.540 --> 00:27:02.670 Aaron McHale: it's interesting. 299 00:27:24.030 --> 00:27:27.560 Aaron McHale: So let me see if I can jump back 300 00:27:27.900 --> 00:27:30.060 Aaron McHale: here 301 00:27:30.650 --> 00:27:31.680 Aaron McHale: from further. 302 00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:36.470 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So 303 00:27:41.580 --> 00:27:43.370 Aaron McHale: I feel like on this screen. The 304 00:27:43.420 --> 00:27:47.469 Aaron McHale: to me the save in place makes sense, because 305 00:27:48.270 --> 00:27:52.079 Aaron McHale: it takes you to that configure form. But you're 306 00:27:52.210 --> 00:27:55.709 Aaron McHale: only configuring it, for the instance of 307 00:27:56.870 --> 00:28:04.410 Aaron McHale: that, for like one instance of that block which are then which it in place in a region so like the action you end up with is 308 00:28:05.140 --> 00:28:07.290 Aaron McHale: the block gets placed in a region 309 00:28:07.760 --> 00:28:08.930 Aaron McHale: that makes sense. 310 00:28:35.580 --> 00:28:41.839 Aaron McHale: or is the people, so do people feel that, save and configure makes more sense? 311 00:28:42.590 --> 00:28:46.879 Aaron McHale: Or do we need to recommend some more like broader changes to how that works. 312 00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.379 Ralf Koller: I think I lean more towards the safe and configure 313 00:29:02.090 --> 00:29:03.090 Ralf Koller: Mary. And 314 00:29:05.290 --> 00:29:07.099 Istvan Szabo: yeah, same for me. 315 00:29:08.590 --> 00:29:09.460 Aaron McHale: Okay. 316 00:29:16.580 --> 00:29:20.049 Aaron McHale: similar offer. Do you either? Do you have any thoughts. 317 00:29:20.850 --> 00:29:22.839 Simo Hellsten: Yeah, I I thought about Joe 318 00:29:22.950 --> 00:29:30.049 Simo Hellsten: Configure, because if it goes like, I think if place placing is used 319 00:29:30.460 --> 00:29:32.030 Simo Hellsten: like in that 320 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:33.770 block, lay out 321 00:29:34.140 --> 00:29:37.410 Simo Hellsten: page. But that page is not called 322 00:29:37.610 --> 00:29:42.920 Simo Hellsten: block placing if it goes to configure. So it's kind of a 323 00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:45.070 Simo Hellsten: it's a 324 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.629 Simo Hellsten: the title of that page, if it If it 325 00:29:48.740 --> 00:29:51.840 Simo Hellsten: so, because it's it's not using that model. 326 00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:53.180 Aaron McHale: Yeah. 327 00:29:53.510 --> 00:29:57.600 Aaron McHale: So for for this issue we're recommending, save and configure. 328 00:29:59.660 --> 00:30:05.669 Aaron McHale: and maybe i'll open a follow up issue to look more broadly at, like the the how we title that. 329 00:30:05.760 --> 00:30:11.549 Aaron McHale: especially now that we're like cooling apart. You know all all the block stuff under structure. 330 00:30:11.630 --> 00:30:14.449 Aaron McHale: so I feel like it. Might. We might benefit from a more. 331 00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:17.070 Aaron McHale: I was sick. Look at 332 00:30:17.270 --> 00:30:20.330 Aaron McHale: like what we call what we call that form. 333 00:30:21.470 --> 00:30:26.640 Aaron McHale: But okay, I will. I will write a short comment on this and 334 00:30:27.550 --> 00:30:29.560 Aaron McHale: see where we go. 335 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:33.170 Aaron McHale: I think the 336 00:30:34.930 --> 00:30:37.399 Aaron McHale: it also talked about looking at this 337 00:30:37.520 --> 00:30:41.040 Aaron McHale: one of these one of the issues that have been on our 338 00:30:41.900 --> 00:30:46.569 Aaron McHale: our radar for a long time. In fact, the top one on here 339 00:30:47.510 --> 00:30:50.730 Aaron McHale: which let me close these ones this time. 340 00:30:53.540 --> 00:30:54.510 Aaron McHale: So 341 00:30:56.230 --> 00:30:57.780 Aaron McHale: 2, 5, 9, 342 00:30:59.070 --> 00:31:01.789 Aaron McHale: 1, 3, 2, 3, 343 00:31:02.270 --> 00:31:06.670 Aaron McHale: which is the workflow and text for installing the teams is confusing. 344 00:31:10.490 --> 00:31:20.630 Aaron McHale: I know, Ralph, is this something that you're comfortable talking us through, because i'm not too familiar with this issue, although we can just go through the we can go through what's here. 345 00:31:20.860 --> 00:31:24.619 The issue is basically only about 2 headlines 346 00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:31.720 Ralf Koller: at the moment it says, installed them on the appearance page and uninstalled themes. And 347 00:31:32.800 --> 00:31:35.790 Ralf Koller: i'm not sure what the suggested 348 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:38.590 Ralf Koller: solution is, I guess it was 349 00:31:38.810 --> 00:31:40.850 Ralf Koller: something like. 350 00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:45.509 Aaron McHale: Let me see where. Let me go to the bottom. See if I can. 351 00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.099 Aaron McHale: Oh, I commented. Here. 352 00:31:51.530 --> 00:31:54.440 Ralf Koller: Yeah, but there, I haven't had the idea yet. 353 00:31:56.390 --> 00:32:00.399 Aaron McHale: Okay, let me open up that site. I had again. 354 00:32:01.350 --> 00:32:07.719 Ralf Koller: Yeah, just go an appearance at the moment it says, installed themes and on install them, as that is something 355 00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:10.779 Ralf Koller: I've also mentioned in the Meta issue. 356 00:32:11.060 --> 00:32:12.499 We've rolled up 357 00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:14.310 Ralf Koller: and back. Then I hit 358 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:16.769 Ralf Koller: no idea yet how to tackle it. 359 00:32:16.830 --> 00:32:19.490 Ralf Koller: but it was something that was confusing me 360 00:32:19.690 --> 00:32:24.210 Ralf Koller: back. Then there was the install themes button 361 00:32:24.260 --> 00:32:33.739 Ralf Koller: also, then, and if you install a lean, and then it is listed under uninstalled themes, and you have to install it again. That was when I started with Triple, confusing me 362 00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:36.239 Ralf Koller: extremely extremely much 363 00:32:36.280 --> 00:32:37.530 Ralf Koller: so. 364 00:32:41.090 --> 00:32:42.880 Ralf Koller: but my suggestion for 365 00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:48.210 Ralf Koller: renaming would be simply rename uninstalled themes to available theme. 366 00:32:49.890 --> 00:32:50.600 Ralf Koller: Hello! 367 00:32:50.710 --> 00:32:55.750 Ralf Koller: It seems that available to be installed after they are added 368 00:32:55.910 --> 00:32:59.509 Ralf Koller: via the at Button. That would be the most straightforward. 369 00:32:59.660 --> 00:33:00.410 Ralf Koller: and 370 00:33:01.170 --> 00:33:08.299 Ralf Koller: would also apply to the extent page. But there is a different pattern, and therefore available is needed. 371 00:33:10.210 --> 00:33:14.820 Ralf Koller: Yes, there is to Co. There is communicated via the check boxes 372 00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:15.930 Aaron McHale: right. 373 00:33:16.820 --> 00:33:24.010 Ralf Koller: but on the appearance page those category headlines are necessary and mandatory, and therefore 374 00:33:24.360 --> 00:33:25.800 Ralf Koller: uninstalled. 375 00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:32.010 Ralf Koller: It's not working 1 s I found in it's they 376 00:33:32.290 --> 00:33:40.009 Ralf Koller: changed it from installed and uninstalled themes to active themes, and in an inactive themes. 377 00:33:40.330 --> 00:33:47.009 Ralf Koller: which isn't also in line with the terminology changes and available themes would be so. 378 00:33:47.310 --> 00:33:48.160 Aaron McHale: Umhm. 379 00:33:49.180 --> 00:33:52.490 Aaron McHale: I like the idea of available seems because 380 00:33:53.850 --> 00:33:59.400 Aaron McHale: like with this one that's just here like active teams and and it teams 381 00:34:00.580 --> 00:34:11.980 Aaron McHale: it wouldn't. I mean it kind of chopped off at the bottom. There were the buttons, but like with with all these buttons we've got like the actions of like uninstall, or then like particularly here, like install, and still it's default. 382 00:34:12.290 --> 00:34:13.279 Aaron McHale: So 383 00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:16.279 Aaron McHale: yeah. 384 00:34:16.340 --> 00:34:20.879 Aaron McHale: I guess he was. Were you saying that like when cause I filed installed. 385 00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:26.399 Aaron McHale: just use as an example. So where on install it comes down to on install themes. 386 00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:28.020 Aaron McHale: But if I 387 00:34:28.340 --> 00:34:31.769 Aaron McHale: so what you saying, if you like, if you install it. It then 388 00:34:32.489 --> 00:34:35.260 Aaron McHale: appears under installed themes. 389 00:34:57.410 --> 00:34:58.700 Ralf Koller: You're muted, Alan. 390 00:34:59.590 --> 00:35:01.500 Aaron McHale: Oh, yes, thank you. 391 00:35:02.650 --> 00:35:04.009 Aaron McHale: So 392 00:35:06.450 --> 00:35:12.670 Aaron McHale: just i'm gonna have a look at the issue. Summary. Because oh, I saw windows, a window 7 screenshot. 393 00:35:14.860 --> 00:35:16.550 Aaron McHale: Yeah, like wow, that's a 394 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:23.450 Aaron McHale: that's a blast. And I was reminiscing about windows 7 the other day. 395 00:35:25.790 --> 00:35:42.049 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So just have a read of. Just read out the the text here as well. So the appearance page user interface takes it's confusing the button, reads install new theme. Yet once the operations complete, the theme is displayed under the heading, titled on Installed themes. Other heading installed themes 396 00:35:42.180 --> 00:35:44.559 Aaron McHale: no theme would show. Is the page 397 00:35:44.600 --> 00:35:45.890 Aaron McHale: wasn't installed? 398 00:35:47.390 --> 00:35:55.009 Aaron McHale: I actually what i'm seeing here is that when you click the install button, it then shows under the installed themes heading 399 00:35:55.220 --> 00:35:56.660 Aaron McHale: So i'm not sure 400 00:35:56.770 --> 00:36:03.160 Aaron McHale: if that was a that was maybe a recent change, because this issue was actually open in 2,015. 401 00:36:06.970 --> 00:36:09.470 Aaron McHale: So I wonder when that was changed? Actually. 402 00:36:13.040 --> 00:36:15.649 Ralf Koller: quite, quite some while already? 403 00:36:15.790 --> 00:36:32.359 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So I guess what? I guess we have a few options here. We could either. Well, we could either make a suggestion for a tech change. These tech the text here, or we could close the issues outdated and say that it's. And what's described is no longer the case. 404 00:36:33.930 --> 00:36:38.620 Aaron McHale: And then, when you install a theme, it does actually show on to the installed theme setting. 405 00:36:40.020 --> 00:36:41.290 Aaron McHale: So I wonder 406 00:36:42.220 --> 00:36:46.220 Ralf Koller: that's true, but still uninstalled. Theme is still 407 00:36:46.380 --> 00:36:48.269 Ralf Koller: sort of confusing. 408 00:36:48.420 --> 00:36:51.450 Ralf Koller: because uninstalled. I associate with 409 00:36:51.560 --> 00:36:52.509 Ralf Koller: it's gone. 410 00:36:52.740 --> 00:36:58.859 Ralf Koller: and it's maybe some sort of history that stark was installed before, but isn't there anymore. 411 00:37:00.850 --> 00:37:06.690 Aaron McHale: right? The in the theme is still technically available to be used. So I do. I do like the idea of available 412 00:37:07.060 --> 00:37:08.620 Aaron McHale: install versus available. 413 00:37:10.070 --> 00:37:15.230 Simo Hellsten: Yeah, it's. I also like the pair installed and available. 414 00:37:16.550 --> 00:37:23.129 Simo Hellsten: and that's that's for active. That kind of meets me, Nick. For me it means like active menu item, or 415 00:37:23.240 --> 00:37:27.210 Simo Hellsten: something like that, that kind of would compare to default. 416 00:37:27.630 --> 00:37:28.430 Aaron McHale: Yeah. 417 00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:35.520 Ralf Koller: And it's also reminds me a bit to enable and disabled, which is a 418 00:37:35.570 --> 00:37:38.829 Ralf Koller: naming pattern that is also trying to be avoided 419 00:37:39.050 --> 00:37:40.529 Ralf Koller: with the renaming 420 00:37:41.080 --> 00:37:43.100 Ralf Koller: right issue. So 421 00:37:49.510 --> 00:37:54.990 Aaron McHale: I guess the only thing i'm wondering is like, I know. I think I I don't think this is a problem. When you click that on install button. 422 00:37:55.520 --> 00:37:59.150 Aaron McHale: If I on this all over here it will appear under 423 00:38:00.100 --> 00:38:18.540 Aaron McHale: what we recommended would be available themes, which I think is okay, because then you can see you have on install buttons, and this theme it's like, okay. This theme is, then these things are available, but they're not active, or being, you know, installed on the site. So I, even with that I still think what we, what you're suggesting is is still 424 00:38:18.550 --> 00:38:20.129 Aaron McHale: still make sense to me. 425 00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:21.660 Aaron McHale: So 426 00:38:21.730 --> 00:38:25.239 Aaron McHale: yeah, i'm. I'm happy with I'm: i'm happy with that as well. The 427 00:38:26.040 --> 00:38:28.040 Aaron McHale: just being available Themes 428 00:38:30.040 --> 00:38:33.439 Aaron McHale: any. Does anybody else have an opinion on that? 429 00:38:48.740 --> 00:38:52.750 Aaron McHale: I guess I guess not. So I will. 430 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:57.310 Aaron McHale: And how he's supposed to short comment on. They should just say we recommend all 431 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:13.170 Aaron McHale: some of it out of date. So all right, i'll i'll I'll tag it and need an issue somebody up, and also 432 00:39:13.330 --> 00:39:14.810 Aaron McHale: you some you've seen shots. 433 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:24.750 Aaron McHale: This might be one of those rare meetings where we actually are able to have time to look at more than 2 issues. So that's exciting. 434 00:39:36.660 --> 00:39:47.849 Aaron McHale: So we do have on a similar third. There is this: some one about the install on install modules page, and we got some notes because we please looked at it. 435 00:39:49.260 --> 00:39:53.490 Aaron McHale: There's also the place in the batch from a message 436 00:39:56.670 --> 00:40:03.049 Aaron McHale: so started looking at it at a previousing timber right of time successfully both our tabs. 437 00:40:17.790 --> 00:40:19.250 Simo Hellsten: and there's some 438 00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:22.049 Aaron McHale: There's a policy issue here. Go ahead. 439 00:40:22.720 --> 00:40:28.519 Simo Hellsten: Yeah. I was thinking that this issue Number 2, 8, 6, 1, 5, 3, 6 440 00:40:28.630 --> 00:40:32.269 Simo Hellsten: might be something that it's a just a wedding issue. 441 00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:33.619 Simo Hellsten: You cool 442 00:40:34.380 --> 00:40:36.409 Simo Hellsten: a second. 443 00:40:36.930 --> 00:40:40.769 Simo Hellsten: 2, 8, 6, 1, 5, 3, 6, 444 00:40:41.780 --> 00:40:47.219 Simo Hellsten: so it's been mentioned in like a couple of times in the past few few weeks. 445 00:40:50.140 --> 00:40:53.739 Aaron McHale: Okay, and field description to explain 446 00:40:53.810 --> 00:40:59.590 Aaron McHale: full remove tags from branded output and quote option more clearly. 447 00:41:00.780 --> 00:41:02.049 Aaron McHale: So 448 00:41:02.210 --> 00:41:04.630 Aaron McHale: okay. So the 449 00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:15.269 Aaron McHale: triple views plug in view style, style, plugin based class as the rendered strip option with the label remove tags from rendered outputs. 450 00:41:15.450 --> 00:41:25.140 Aaron McHale: There are situations where it is, where its effect isn't strictly clear. So it would be useful to add a field description that explains it more clearly. 451 00:41:29.150 --> 00:41:31.159 Yeah, I see that one. 452 00:41:32.980 --> 00:41:41.500 Aaron McHale: And is this like a okay. So there's a patch here with some proposed text. So let me open up. You see, if I can make these bigger. Actually. 453 00:41:45.410 --> 00:41:46.600 Aaron McHale: So 454 00:41:46.940 --> 00:41:51.470 Aaron McHale: the before the patch there, as it said, to remove types 455 00:41:51.760 --> 00:42:02.100 Aaron McHale: from around out who doesn't have any health tax, whereas afterwards it says Some modules add HTML to the rendered output and prevent the rows from being grouped 456 00:42:02.140 --> 00:42:09.449 Aaron McHale: from grouping together correctly. Stripping the HTML types could correct or should correct this. 457 00:42:13.040 --> 00:42:14.939 Aaron McHale: Okay. 458 00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:19.359 Aaron McHale: Does anybody have any any thoughts on this? 459 00:42:23.340 --> 00:42:26.670 Simo Hellsten: There's also one of the suggestion in 460 00:42:26.790 --> 00:42:28.259 Simo Hellsten: Comment Number 20 461 00:42:28.870 --> 00:42:30.200 Aaron McHale: space. 462 00:42:42.220 --> 00:42:44.189 Aaron McHale: Yeah. Okay. So 463 00:42:44.410 --> 00:42:46.210 Aaron McHale: do this 464 00:42:46.370 --> 00:42:49.989 Aaron McHale: HTML: tax prevent rules from grouping correctly. 465 00:42:54.170 --> 00:42:56.519 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I feel like we could. Probably 466 00:42:56.930 --> 00:42:59.959 Aaron McHale: that message could be shortened slightly. So 467 00:43:06.490 --> 00:43:12.519 Aaron McHale: let me see if I can actually find this so because maybe we can do a quick 468 00:43:14.600 --> 00:43:16.439 Aaron McHale: Have a quick look. 469 00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:21.439 Aaron McHale: I think I know how you would get to this. Let's see if I can find it. 470 00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:30.120 Aaron McHale: Let's go as a content. That's always a fun view. 471 00:43:33.030 --> 00:43:34.700 Aaron McHale: So it's 472 00:43:35.710 --> 00:43:37.410 Aaron McHale: yeah field grouping. 473 00:43:46.200 --> 00:43:53.339 Aaron McHale: Oh, is it under? Does anybody know actually how you get to this because i'm trying to remember. I I know as long as I know I've seen it. But 474 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:02.029 Simo Hellsten: is it on the table 475 00:44:02.520 --> 00:44:04.709 Simo Hellsten: settings? 476 00:44:06.030 --> 00:44:09.290 Aaron McHale: Oh, maybe yeah, yeah. 477 00:44:18.210 --> 00:44:22.010 Aaron McHale: yeah, there is a grouping option. So if I there we go. Okay. 478 00:44:22.030 --> 00:44:23.439 Aaron McHale: So 479 00:44:23.700 --> 00:44:25.600 Aaron McHale: that works. 480 00:44:31.990 --> 00:44:34.659 Aaron McHale: Okay. So a good thing. And then. 481 00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:39.450 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So let's see if we can just add. 482 00:44:41.150 --> 00:44:43.299 Aaron McHale: Oh, this is gonna get tight. 483 00:44:44.120 --> 00:44:45.060 Aaron McHale: Okay. 484 00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:47.839 Aaron McHale: So there's no 485 00:44:48.160 --> 00:44:51.799 Aaron McHale: right. Let me see if I can copy the HTML from here, so that 486 00:44:55.280 --> 00:44:57.149 Aaron McHale: it goes below the label. 487 00:45:03.630 --> 00:45:05.400 Aaron McHale: I think there's just like a 488 00:45:05.460 --> 00:45:07.589 Aaron McHale: Is there a paste below option? 489 00:45:13.740 --> 00:45:14.919 Aaron McHale: Yeah, that worked? 490 00:45:16.370 --> 00:45:17.550 Aaron McHale: Okay. So 491 00:45:18.090 --> 00:45:20.449 Aaron McHale: if I comment 20, 492 00:45:21.750 --> 00:45:23.379 Aaron McHale: Yes, this is the 493 00:45:23.560 --> 00:45:26.420 Aaron McHale: text. It was recorded in comment. 494 00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:27.910 Aaron McHale: 20? 495 00:45:33.150 --> 00:45:35.040 Aaron McHale: Okay. 496 00:45:37.150 --> 00:45:39.919 Aaron McHale: just I just changed the wrong thing. 497 00:45:40.710 --> 00:45:41.500 Aaron McHale: No? 498 00:45:41.550 --> 00:45:42.419 Aaron McHale: Okay. 499 00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:56.199 Aaron McHale: Okay. Just pretend I didn't. I didn't accidentally change the label. 500 00:45:56.330 --> 00:45:57.770 Aaron McHale: What was it before 501 00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:03.409 Aaron McHale: it was okay removed? 502 00:46:11.210 --> 00:46:13.450 Aaron McHale: Okay, that's nicer. 503 00:46:16.770 --> 00:46:19.930 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So the other suggestion was to kind of just 504 00:46:24.160 --> 00:46:28.069 Aaron McHale: something like just a singletized can prevent some gripping correctly. 505 00:46:34.070 --> 00:46:34.629 Hmm. 506 00:46:50.690 --> 00:46:51.660 Aaron McHale: So 507 00:46:51.680 --> 00:46:56.609 Aaron McHale: the suggestion was something like this: I wonder if that's like too short, like I don't know if 508 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:58.889 Aaron McHale: or is it. Do you think that's 509 00:46:59.610 --> 00:47:03.379 Aaron McHale: so? Any objections to that text versus the one that was originally proposed? 510 00:47:06.220 --> 00:47:08.629 Simo Hellsten: Oh, I had a comment 511 00:47:09.140 --> 00:47:12.019 Simo Hellsten: there. So i'm thinking like that 512 00:47:12.870 --> 00:47:20.069 Simo Hellsten: for for me it's a bit of a problem to say that it prevents something to be done correctly, because if it's kind of a 513 00:47:20.390 --> 00:47:22.259 Simo Hellsten: standard HTML 514 00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.690 Simo Hellsten: and Standard Css. And 515 00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:32.619 Simo Hellsten: it's rendered according to some dot. Then it's a kind of grouped correctly, but it's not group as intended. 516 00:47:33.600 --> 00:47:34.299 Aaron McHale: Hmm. 517 00:47:34.780 --> 00:47:37.979 Simo Hellsten: So i'd like to change that correctly into 518 00:47:38.150 --> 00:47:39.560 Simo Hellsten: as intended. 519 00:47:47.720 --> 00:47:48.859 Ralf Koller: Oh. 520 00:47:52.180 --> 00:47:57.399 Ralf Koller: but maybe it might be a good idea to also add the part about 521 00:47:57.550 --> 00:48:01.279 Ralf Koller: that. The HTML text could be added by 522 00:48:01.580 --> 00:48:03.010 Ralf Koller: some modules 523 00:48:04.220 --> 00:48:09.319 Ralf Koller: course at the moment. Just hml tags can prevent roles from grouping, that is, without 524 00:48:09.340 --> 00:48:12.040 Ralf Koller: context, and it might be confusing 525 00:48:13.650 --> 00:48:15.209 Aaron McHale: for people. 526 00:48:21.580 --> 00:48:25.599 Ralf Koller: But if you add the contact that some modules might add 527 00:48:25.890 --> 00:48:27.990 Ralf Koller: something like that, and 528 00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:32.190 Ralf Koller: leave the rest like it is at the moment in the description when it 529 00:48:32.230 --> 00:48:32.830 Aaron McHale: umhm 530 00:48:36.560 --> 00:48:40.189 Aaron McHale: And what about just like modules, and add 531 00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:42.439 Aaron McHale: HTML tax 532 00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:45.680 Ralf Koller: that prevent that can prevent? 533 00:48:47.130 --> 00:48:47.850 Aaron McHale: Oh. 534 00:48:48.310 --> 00:48:52.090 Aaron McHale: that can prevent through some grouping as intended 535 00:48:59.820 --> 00:49:03.240 Aaron McHale: roof types, or ended up with modules kind of 536 00:49:03.490 --> 00:49:05.500 Aaron McHale: the as intended. 537 00:49:08.080 --> 00:49:09.629 Aaron McHale: Look at this again. 538 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:34.059 Aaron McHale: So yeah, I it 539 00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:35.510 Aaron McHale: sorry. Go ahead 540 00:49:36.900 --> 00:49:37.879 Ralf Koller: all right. 541 00:49:38.710 --> 00:49:39.379 Ralf Koller: The 542 00:49:40.130 --> 00:49:46.879 Ralf Koller: The can sounds a bit redundant. Would it be? Might be an idea. Modules 543 00:49:47.290 --> 00:49:52.670 Ralf Koller: could add HTML the text that prevent Rose from grouping as intended. 544 00:49:55.190 --> 00:49:58.339 Aaron McHale: and remove the the second one. Yeah. 545 00:49:58.530 --> 00:50:01.039 Ralf Koller: and change the first to 546 00:50:04.640 --> 00:50:06.859 Aaron McHale: Oh, change the code back to Ken. 547 00:50:07.190 --> 00:50:10.880 Ralf Koller: No, I I would leave it as with could, and because 548 00:50:11.220 --> 00:50:14.029 Ralf Koller: for me it sounds a bit more 549 00:50:16.220 --> 00:50:21.250 Ralf Koller: in general. No, that is it is that it isn't general. But it could happen 550 00:50:21.350 --> 00:50:24.850 Ralf Koller: with Canada's more definite, at least 551 00:50:25.250 --> 00:50:27.359 Ralf Koller: non-native speaker perspective. 552 00:50:27.730 --> 00:50:31.800 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I would agree. So modules could add 553 00:50:32.200 --> 00:50:35.160 Aaron McHale: that prevent your from grouping as intended? 554 00:50:39.750 --> 00:50:40.859 Ralf Koller: Or might 555 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:42.890 Aaron McHale: Mike 556 00:50:43.030 --> 00:50:45.100 Aaron McHale: Modules night 557 00:50:53.720 --> 00:50:55.369 Aaron McHale: or even May? 558 00:50:55.660 --> 00:50:56.399 Ralf Koller: Yeah. 559 00:50:56.540 --> 00:50:57.610 Ralf Koller: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 560 00:50:58.290 --> 00:51:03.410 Aaron McHale: I mean, we're we're losing a couple of characters there, so it's technically shorter. 561 00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:04.149 Ralf Koller: Yep. 562 00:51:08.120 --> 00:51:08.720 no. 563 00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:10.690 Simo Hellsten: to the checkbooks. 564 00:51:10.950 --> 00:51:11.689 Simo Hellsten: Not 565 00:51:13.260 --> 00:51:15.150 Simo Hellsten: like I'd like to add 566 00:51:15.610 --> 00:51:22.400 Simo Hellsten: a few directors, because I i'd like to have it. Say that remove HTML tags. 567 00:51:23.400 --> 00:51:29.010 Simo Hellsten: Also it it would be in line with what we have, I think, in our content 568 00:51:30.100 --> 00:51:31.069 Simo Hellsten: the 569 00:51:31.270 --> 00:51:33.170 Simo Hellsten: what's that called where you 570 00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:33.919 Yeah. 571 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.840 Simo Hellsten: Yup, where you have full HTML or plain to extend. 572 00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:48.229 Simo Hellsten: Yeah, but there it's, I think it. They're also it's they are talking all about. HTML: tags. 573 00:51:48.600 --> 00:51:52.210 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I think it's probably there to be more explicit. 574 00:51:53.410 --> 00:51:56.039 Aaron McHale: So remove HTML touch to render that food 575 00:51:56.160 --> 00:52:00.350 Aaron McHale: modules may add HTML tags that prevent rules from grouping us in time. Date. 576 00:52:00.740 --> 00:52:09.669 Aaron McHale: I just think it Friday. If we go HTML types in the label do we need? Is there a way we could board the description. So we we don't need to sage gmail tags in the description. 577 00:52:27.510 --> 00:52:28.520 Ralf Koller: Either 578 00:52:28.730 --> 00:52:32.209 Ralf Koller: remove HTML in the description, or 579 00:52:32.390 --> 00:52:35.759 Ralf Koller: remove HTML tags and replace it with 580 00:52:37.630 --> 00:52:46.669 Ralf Koller: modules may add those that prevent No, no, the reference but that just tags; and if in the description 581 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:49.620 Aaron McHale: we'll just add text to prevent it from 582 00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.390 Aaron McHale: everything as intended. 583 00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:55.910 Aaron McHale: I feel like we're yeah, there's definitely an improvement. Do we? 584 00:52:56.970 --> 00:53:04.449 Aaron McHale: Would that make? I guess. I'm just wondering what that makes sense. Is that enough. Is that description like clear enough that someone would know 585 00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:10.050 Aaron McHale: how to use this? I think I I feel like it is I just. I've never used this enough to 586 00:53:11.510 --> 00:53:12.569 Aaron McHale: like to know 587 00:53:12.930 --> 00:53:14.719 Aaron McHale: when I would or wouldn't use it. 588 00:53:15.780 --> 00:53:16.790 Aaron McHale: But 589 00:53:17.260 --> 00:53:18.969 Aaron McHale: I guess it's clear. 590 00:53:20.720 --> 00:53:23.470 Aaron McHale: Do we need to approach it from the perspective of like 591 00:53:23.860 --> 00:53:26.530 Aaron McHale: something like if you're having. I don't know if 592 00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:30.559 Aaron McHale: use the like. Simply use this option. If 593 00:53:31.700 --> 00:53:36.220 Aaron McHale: Fields aren't group are not grouping correctly or not grouping as intended. 594 00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:41.950 Simo Hellsten: I think 595 00:53:41.980 --> 00:53:48.410 Simo Hellsten: this would help a user who has? Who doesn't get the output he or she wants. 596 00:53:48.770 --> 00:53:56.590 Simo Hellsten: and then goes back to looking at the settings that. What could I have done wrong, or what could it be done differently? 597 00:53:56.680 --> 00:53:57.800 Aaron McHale: So in this one? 598 00:54:00.650 --> 00:54:01.560 Aaron McHale: Right? 599 00:54:01.930 --> 00:54:02.759 Aaron McHale: Yeah. 600 00:54:10.070 --> 00:54:13.910 Ralf Koller: maybe at a second sentence. 601 00:54:13.930 --> 00:54:15.200 Ralf Koller: check or 602 00:54:17.140 --> 00:54:20.910 Ralf Koller: apply if the output is 603 00:54:21.530 --> 00:54:22.899 Ralf Koller: incorrect or 604 00:54:25.250 --> 00:54:26.469 Ralf Koller: okay. 605 00:54:34.390 --> 00:54:39.860 Aaron McHale: So something like, yeah. So we're the first that we're stating that modules me on tags. 606 00:54:40.680 --> 00:54:41.330 Aaron McHale: Yep. 607 00:54:43.620 --> 00:54:47.660 Aaron McHale: one's on the attack that prevent Rose from grouping as intended. But 608 00:54:49.970 --> 00:54:52.989 Simo Hellsten: but that's that's not all. The only use case. 609 00:54:53.030 --> 00:54:57.369 Simo Hellsten: because I think yeah, but sometimes just to kind of up 610 00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:06.850 Simo Hellsten: to make that content. More uniform. I think 611 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:13.729 Simo Hellsten: it's a 100 us in a while, but sometimes so that it can be used for also other things. 612 00:55:14.290 --> 00:55:15.259 Okay. 613 00:55:15.470 --> 00:55:19.140 Aaron McHale: Yeah, yeah, I I know what you mean. 614 00:55:23.410 --> 00:55:29.129 Aaron McHale: A any other comments on this, or have we? Are we all happy with what we've got to do on it. 615 00:55:39.390 --> 00:55:42.020 Simo Hellsten: Well, I i'm happy with this version. 616 00:55:42.070 --> 00:55:42.979 Aaron McHale: I think. 617 00:55:48.570 --> 00:55:50.039 Aaron McHale: Yeah, we can 618 00:55:50.170 --> 00:55:52.159 Aaron McHale: just that. 619 00:55:57.990 --> 00:55:59.859 Aaron McHale: Okay? Well. 620 00:56:00.740 --> 00:56:05.909 Aaron McHale: I can. Since I've got it in my browser here, I can suggest that on the issue. And 621 00:56:06.180 --> 00:56:06.799 Aaron McHale: yeah. 622 00:56:11.560 --> 00:56:18.679 Aaron McHale: I think so. We're nearly at the end of the hour. So we probably don't have enough time to make it a fourth issue. But 623 00:56:19.030 --> 00:56:24.089 Aaron McHale: i'll just point out that we are as normal. We're still tracking 624 00:56:24.460 --> 00:56:26.830 Aaron McHale: progress on the 625 00:56:27.110 --> 00:56:32.389 Aaron McHale: the issue to. We organize the block items in this to the menu 626 00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:40.839 Aaron McHale: we currently have. So the move. Custom. Block library to content is 627 00:56:42.060 --> 00:56:50.619 Aaron McHale: currently is is currently blocked it doesn't. I don't think it explicitly says there, but it's locked. But 628 00:56:51.770 --> 00:56:53.090 Aaron McHale: let me just load it up. 629 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:04.380 Aaron McHale: Yes, it's it's technically blocked by this issue, which you manage to get to art to Rtbc. 630 00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:15.359 Aaron McHale: The create redirect for new blog types paths. And this is, as you may remember, to basically make it, so that if you have shortcuts or something that point to 631 00:57:15.660 --> 00:57:28.700 Aaron McHale: the the old block types location that there is now a redirect in place. So it looks something like this where you get when you redirect you, you got a warning message suggests to update any links 632 00:57:28.710 --> 00:57:41.199 Aaron McHale: so hopefully that will land pretty soon. We're confident not to our TV this week. So we're pretty confident online soon, and when it does we can go back to because we'll need to. We'll need to use the same pattern for 633 00:57:42.190 --> 00:57:47.630 Aaron McHale: for this issue about moving the custom block library to content. So we're hopeful that that will land 634 00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:52.370 Aaron McHale: pretty soon, and we can. We can continue on with this. But 635 00:57:53.060 --> 00:58:01.759 Aaron McHale: yeah, hopefully, it will be. It'll be really good if we can get all these done before, or most of them. Most of the big ones done before 10 to one we still go. 636 00:58:01.820 --> 00:58:05.780 Aaron McHale: I think we've still got a few months to get those in. So 637 00:58:06.120 --> 00:58:08.449 Aaron McHale: yeah, so let's study progress. 638 00:58:13.670 --> 00:58:23.549 Aaron McHale: And yeah, like, I said. I think we're we're fortunate to be over. So, as I said, i'll update those issues. But thank you, thanks everyone for coming, and 639 00:58:23.710 --> 00:58:30.469 Aaron McHale: as Normally, Benjy will be back next week. And yeah, we'll hopefully see you next Friday. 640 00:58:32.720 --> 00:58:36.669 Ralf Koller: Thank you. And thank you. Yeah. Have a nice weekend.