WEBVTT 93 00:08:42.587 --> 00:08:47.039 Benji Fisher: Welcome. This is the juple usability meeting for March 20, ninth, 2024. 94 00:08:47.250 --> 00:08:54.129 Benji Fisher: I'm Benji Fisher, moderating. And also here are Ralph color sharing screen. Who'll start off the discussion? 95 00:08:54.370 --> 00:08:56.040 Benji Fisher: And, Quinn. 96 00:08:56.620 --> 00:08:59.300 Benji Fisher: so thank you both for coming. Let's get started. 97 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:09.729 Ralf Koller: Okay, issue number is 2, 4, 1, 8, 7, 5, 5 path aliases filter by system path. 98 00:09:12.270 --> 00:09:16.889 Ralf Koller: it's basically if we take a look at the current state in 99 00:09:17.590 --> 00:09:19.490 Ralf Koller: a new tab. 100 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:23.690 Ralf Koller: You just basically have a filter. 101 00:09:23.870 --> 00:09:25.130 Ralf Koller: And 102 00:09:25.660 --> 00:09:28.169 Ralf Koller: underneath the alias and system path 103 00:09:29.870 --> 00:09:32.710 Ralf Koller: column with the 104 00:09:34.503 --> 00:09:39.030 Ralf Koller: Merge request applied. You get a second filter field. 105 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:42.470 Ralf Koller: meaning you can either 106 00:09:43.650 --> 00:09:45.410 Ralf Koller: filter for cat 107 00:09:47.850 --> 00:09:48.690 Ralf Koller: for 108 00:09:50.540 --> 00:09:51.749 Ralf Koller: the system path. 109 00:09:52.610 --> 00:09:55.209 Ralf Koller: 2 separate fields and 110 00:09:56.344 --> 00:09:59.310 Ralf Koller: I've already commented on the thread 111 00:09:59.520 --> 00:10:00.910 Ralf Koller: and 112 00:10:01.280 --> 00:10:05.949 Ralf Koller: on slack, and said, Euro, ask in 113 00:10:05.990 --> 00:10:09.950 Ralf Koller: quest in comment. Number 47. We can take a look at 114 00:10:10.250 --> 00:10:15.588 Ralf Koller: right after. Why not simply search both columns instead of having 2 search fields. 115 00:10:16.350 --> 00:10:26.429 Ralf Koller: Which fields is odd in 5 53. The person working on the issue mainly said the patch would be updated soon, but not sure if that suggestion got reflected or worked on at any point. 116 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:28.550 Ralf Koller: so. 117 00:10:28.550 --> 00:10:33.139 Benji Fisher: Oh, so, so! So! Down and can you go back to the page where you're 118 00:10:33.250 --> 00:10:37.240 Benji Fisher: showing it? Quinn? Are you familiar with this form? I am. 119 00:10:40.858 --> 00:10:43.810 Quynh Pham: Not really. I'm still trying to catch up. 120 00:10:45.405 --> 00:10:48.690 Benji Fisher: So do you know the path aliases in drupal. 121 00:10:48.690 --> 00:10:50.499 Quynh Pham: Right? Right? Yes, of course. 122 00:10:52.116 --> 00:10:54.493 Benji Fisher: So this lists, all of them. 123 00:10:54.920 --> 00:10:56.559 Benji Fisher: and Ralph, just for 124 00:10:57.444 --> 00:11:01.919 Benji Fisher: sake of example, could you click on one of the pages, maybe cat. 125 00:11:05.390 --> 00:11:08.850 Benji Fisher: And so if you look at the URL, the path is slash cat 126 00:11:09.361 --> 00:11:13.879 Benji Fisher: but if you go to the edit page, it's node slash. What was it? 7. 127 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:16.099 Benji Fisher: Yeah, no. Slash. 7 dead end. 128 00:11:16.670 --> 00:11:20.859 Benji Fisher: And over in the right sidebar near the bottom of Ralph's screen. 129 00:11:21.070 --> 00:11:22.959 Benji Fisher: He's entered cat. So 130 00:11:25.110 --> 00:11:26.900 Benji Fisher: so you've probably 131 00:11:26.940 --> 00:11:32.309 Benji Fisher: seen it on on this page. Note edit. Form. But maybe you've never looked at the page where 132 00:11:32.510 --> 00:11:34.119 Benji Fisher: all of the 133 00:11:35.340 --> 00:11:39.380 Benji Fisher: all of them for this site are listed, which is what we're looking at now. Make sense. 134 00:11:39.970 --> 00:11:40.890 Benji Fisher: Yep, yep. 135 00:11:40.890 --> 00:11:43.399 Quynh Pham: We use pat auto. So yes. 136 00:11:44.400 --> 00:11:45.110 Quynh Pham: right? 137 00:11:46.180 --> 00:11:50.729 Benji Fisher: Which, by the way, I think should be important. But let's I shouldn't try to 138 00:11:50.770 --> 00:11:52.500 Benji Fisher: distract us with that. 139 00:11:53.949 --> 00:11:55.789 Benji Fisher: Okay, so 140 00:11:57.926 --> 00:12:04.899 Benji Fisher: I actually think there are advantages to having 2 separate search fields being able to search on on one. 141 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:09.630 Benji Fisher: either the the alias or the system path. 142 00:12:11.327 --> 00:12:14.809 Benji Fisher: I've I've certainly run into cases where 143 00:12:16.260 --> 00:12:20.619 Benji Fisher: it would be helpful to be able to restrict search to one or the other. 144 00:12:27.596 --> 00:12:28.230 Ralf Koller: I mean. 145 00:12:30.680 --> 00:12:33.459 Ralf Koller: that is euro's comment in that regard. 146 00:12:33.920 --> 00:12:35.890 Ralf Koller: The point was just. It wasn't 147 00:12:36.460 --> 00:12:44.800 Ralf Koller: reference or worked on in any way. I agree. This is not super useful filter as it is now, but I don't think it's very clear source and alias mean 148 00:12:44.900 --> 00:13:03.353 Ralf Koller: table either. It says, system instead of source. Should these not use the same label? Why not search both aliases and system path by default, not expose a ui for it? You could then sort on system to group system Paris and aliases, and just one other comment. 149 00:13:04.430 --> 00:13:05.679 Ralf Koller: in the follow-up. 150 00:13:06.070 --> 00:13:07.337 Ralf Koller: To my comment. 151 00:13:07.930 --> 00:13:08.940 Ralf Koller: Stephen 152 00:13:09.230 --> 00:13:11.970 Ralf Koller: posted my comment on here. 153 00:13:12.020 --> 00:13:28.909 Ralf Koller: and Joseph Olstered replied, easy to answer. Why not? When there's over 10,000 aliases, your results get lost. A filter option at the offset is easier to understand than a sort on system. The ui improvements, as good as is 154 00:13:28.910 --> 00:13:51.420 Ralf Koller: is good. Make the label changes you want, but I still want a filter option. My client side have over 10,000 aliases. I don't want to be paging through results to find what I'm looking for, I say, go with a simple improvement as proposed now and then, later on make a new ticket to add exposed filter options, such as exact match contain starts with and ends with. 155 00:13:51.500 --> 00:14:08.319 Ralf Koller: It's already been 9 years to get so this far, let's make a small improvement as proposed. Make the label change as you want and move forward. Can it be better? Yes, it can always be better, is what we've done and improve. Is what we've done. An improvement? Yes, 9 years, and counting. 156 00:14:10.690 --> 00:14:16.669 Benji Fisher: Oh, yes, that's always the frustration with making changes in drupal. That 157 00:14:17.450 --> 00:14:18.970 Benji Fisher: takes a long time. 158 00:14:19.585 --> 00:14:22.214 Benji Fisher: I agree with his comment. 159 00:14:23.389 --> 00:14:27.680 Benji Fisher: I I like having the separate filters, as I said, 160 00:14:28.940 --> 00:14:30.329 Benji Fisher: system path. 161 00:14:30.460 --> 00:14:33.107 Benji Fisher: and at alias 162 00:14:36.030 --> 00:14:39.409 Benji Fisher: so it looks as though the labels have already been changed 163 00:14:41.230 --> 00:14:42.140 Benji Fisher: since. 164 00:14:42.140 --> 00:14:42.500 Ralf Koller: They will. 165 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:43.900 Benji Fisher: Sure was common 166 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.089 Benji Fisher: and there there is the larger inconsistency 167 00:14:52.340 --> 00:15:00.569 Benji Fisher: that in the ui and in the code they are referred to as URL aliases or path aliases. 168 00:15:00.770 --> 00:15:04.389 Benji Fisher: I think that might also have been a change from drupal 7 169 00:15:08.600 --> 00:15:13.780 Benji Fisher: and I see just just on this page the page title says you are L aliases 170 00:15:14.070 --> 00:15:15.085 Benji Fisher: the 171 00:15:19.010 --> 00:15:22.169 Benji Fisher: what? What's it called inside the next element? 172 00:15:24.075 --> 00:15:25.050 Benji Fisher: No. 173 00:15:25.050 --> 00:15:26.810 Ralf Koller: What do you? What do you refer to. 174 00:15:26.810 --> 00:15:28.420 Benji Fisher: Where it says, path, alias 175 00:15:29.335 --> 00:15:32.425 Benji Fisher: the placeholder text. That's the word. 176 00:15:32.940 --> 00:15:33.700 Ralf Koller: Whoops. 177 00:15:34.020 --> 00:15:39.119 Benji Fisher: The placeholder text says Path, alias, and the table header just says, alias 178 00:15:41.550 --> 00:15:46.709 Benji Fisher: It would be nice if those 3 were consistent. But I I'd say that's also out of scope. 179 00:15:46.790 --> 00:15:47.940 Benji Fisher: And since 180 00:15:49.392 --> 00:15:52.409 Benji Fisher: since the page title and the 181 00:15:53.230 --> 00:15:57.969 Benji Fisher: column header are already inconsistent, I don't think it's 182 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:03.589 Benji Fisher: that much worse to have a third to the placeholder text. 183 00:16:03.900 --> 00:16:06.950 Benji Fisher: although I wouldn't mind changing it to be 184 00:16:07.420 --> 00:16:09.510 Benji Fisher: consistent with one or the other. 185 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:22.759 Ralf Koller: It wouldn't be much of a change if you would change your L aliases to path aliases, for example, in the H. One. 186 00:16:25.790 --> 00:16:28.850 Ralf Koller: or would that entail changes in the documentation. 187 00:16:35.050 --> 00:16:44.160 Benji Fisher: I guess we'd also want to consider the how it looks in the menu. It. Yes, it might also involve changes in the documentation. 188 00:16:45.950 --> 00:16:47.070 Benji Fisher: I 189 00:16:51.010 --> 00:16:54.640 Benji Fisher: right. So there it is. URL aliases in the menu. 190 00:16:55.190 --> 00:16:58.480 Benji Fisher: which probably comes from the page title. 191 00:16:59.890 --> 00:17:02.559 Benji Fisher: And then, of course, there's the help text, too. 192 00:17:03.430 --> 00:17:07.260 Benji Fisher: where it's also just alias like the column header. 193 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:09.980 Benji Fisher: Yep. 194 00:17:10.310 --> 00:17:13.129 Quynh Pham: And the header, too, the table header, too. 195 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:17.709 Benji Fisher: Right. That's where it's just alias 196 00:17:21.499 --> 00:17:24.969 Benji Fisher: Oh, I see that offer has joined us. Welcome. 197 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:31.429 Benji Fisher: So is it clear what we're talking about? Offer are, you're familiar with this page. 198 00:17:33.589 --> 00:17:35.309 Benji Fisher: and have you ever 199 00:17:35.619 --> 00:17:40.269 Benji Fisher: wanted to be able to search on the system path rather than the alias. 200 00:17:44.290 --> 00:17:47.979 Ofer Shaal: No, but I can definitely see how. It's very useful. 201 00:17:48.120 --> 00:17:48.860 Ofer Shaal: Yeah. 202 00:17:53.900 --> 00:17:56.500 Benji Fisher: so, Ralph? What are the outstanding questions. 203 00:18:01.740 --> 00:18:03.900 Ralf Koller: It was basically a general 204 00:18:05.580 --> 00:18:24.099 Ralf Koller: a cache filed for needs usability. The not specified on the language filter looks a bit confusing, especially with no label. I don't. I didn't think this needed usability with the just, the system password, but with that change it's probably done 1 Si just have to install 205 00:18:25.180 --> 00:18:27.280 Ralf Koller: another language. 206 00:18:40.540 --> 00:18:43.139 Ralf Koller: That detail I have missed. 207 00:18:46.223 --> 00:18:47.770 Ralf Koller: Translations. Oh. 208 00:19:06.340 --> 00:19:09.029 Ralf Koller: let's go back, if that's already enough. 209 00:19:10.370 --> 00:19:11.239 Ralf Koller: Oh, yeah. 210 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.150 Ralf Koller: that the attorney is referring to. 211 00:19:28.010 --> 00:19:28.970 Benji Fisher: Okay, 212 00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:32.999 Benji Fisher: So does anyone 213 00:19:33.020 --> 00:19:34.940 Benji Fisher: disagree with having 214 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:36.530 Benji Fisher: the 2 filters? 215 00:19:38.350 --> 00:19:43.690 Benji Fisher: I I guess I'm strongly in favor offer, said he sees how could useful. 216 00:19:44.280 --> 00:19:47.000 Benji Fisher: Ralph, for Ken. Do you want to push back on that. 217 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.690 Ralf Koller: I don't have a strong opinion about it. 218 00:19:53.780 --> 00:19:58.100 Ralf Koller: The only detail, maybe, but also 219 00:19:59.350 --> 00:20:04.040 Ralf Koller: may, might be good for a follow up issue is to basically 220 00:20:04.170 --> 00:20:05.750 Ralf Koller: highlight the match 221 00:20:06.690 --> 00:20:10.789 Ralf Koller: in the matches. So basically that if you search for cat that you 222 00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:15.069 Ralf Koller: add a background to cat, for example, something like that. 223 00:20:18.460 --> 00:20:21.100 Benji Fisher: That's definitely a question for follow up. 224 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:21.930 Benji Fisher: Yep. 225 00:20:22.891 --> 00:20:27.220 Benji Fisher: okay. So that so that's settled. And 226 00:20:27.570 --> 00:20:31.279 Benji Fisher: yeah, certainly the not specified. There is 227 00:20:32.510 --> 00:20:34.230 Benji Fisher: not at all clear. 228 00:20:38.730 --> 00:20:42.369 Benji Fisher: So how should we fix that? Should we 229 00:20:42.410 --> 00:20:46.260 Benji Fisher: change the label that currently says, not specified? 230 00:20:46.590 --> 00:20:48.060 Benji Fisher: Should we. 231 00:20:48.905 --> 00:20:53.359 Benji Fisher: add a description or or label to the field. 232 00:21:02.000 --> 00:21:06.949 Ralf Koller: Question I would have is what not applicable means in that context. 233 00:21:08.830 --> 00:21:12.699 Quynh Pham: Yeah, I don't. I don't know why we need both. 234 00:21:12.820 --> 00:21:15.750 Quynh Pham: and what the use case for that. 235 00:21:16.150 --> 00:21:18.910 Quynh Pham: And with context, because 236 00:21:19.020 --> 00:21:22.593 Quynh Pham: not and e is good enough right. 237 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:28.180 Benji Fisher: I'm I'm sorry what's good enough. 238 00:21:29.110 --> 00:21:30.377 Quynh Pham: Oh, not applicable! 239 00:21:31.940 --> 00:21:34.687 Benji Fisher: Yeah. So I I think that's 240 00:21:35.300 --> 00:21:36.139 Benji Fisher: sort of a 241 00:21:36.430 --> 00:21:38.900 Benji Fisher: a technical answer to that is that 242 00:21:39.686 --> 00:21:46.209 Benji Fisher: the URL, alias like a note or taxonomy term, or any other entity. 243 00:21:47.030 --> 00:21:49.840 Benji Fisher: and have a language applied to it. 244 00:21:50.220 --> 00:21:51.650 Benji Fisher: and 245 00:21:52.188 --> 00:21:54.300 Benji Fisher: and it might be 246 00:21:55.536 --> 00:21:59.570 Benji Fisher: the special UN d undetermined or undefined 247 00:22:03.150 --> 00:22:10.900 Benji Fisher: and and that that's sort of a like a database related thing that the the URL, alias itself. 248 00:22:12.780 --> 00:22:20.650 Benji Fisher: might or might not have a a language tag applied to it. So presumably the aliases we've already 249 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:26.809 Benji Fisher: added to the system before Ralph enabled a second language. Those are presumably all 250 00:22:28.690 --> 00:22:32.590 Benji Fisher: not language specific. So, Ralph, if you can clear the cat filter. 251 00:22:36.210 --> 00:22:41.449 Benji Fisher: and if you choose, English or German, I think they'll all be filtered out. 252 00:22:45.288 --> 00:22:48.320 Ralf Koller: Does it mean but 1 s that mean 253 00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:53.659 Ralf Koller: not applicable equals to non the non label. Basically. 254 00:22:53.660 --> 00:22:57.499 Benji Fisher: That's language. None is is savings. So can you just confirm that 255 00:22:59.580 --> 00:23:02.410 Benji Fisher: that if you click, not applicable? Yeah. 256 00:23:02.410 --> 00:23:03.670 Ralf Koller: Tab before. Yep. 257 00:23:03.810 --> 00:23:04.400 Benji Fisher: Oh. 258 00:23:06.500 --> 00:23:08.180 Benji Fisher: that's not what I expected. 259 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:09.790 Quynh Pham: Interesting. 260 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:14.699 Ralf Koller: Set filter. 261 00:23:14.950 --> 00:23:17.820 Ralf Koller: Yeah, with not specified. You get all 262 00:23:19.140 --> 00:23:20.530 Ralf Koller: with not applicable. 263 00:23:21.020 --> 00:23:22.779 Ralf Koller: You get nothing. 264 00:23:24.330 --> 00:23:25.480 Benji Fisher: That's interesting. 265 00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:29.970 Benji Fisher: And and which of those 2 is the default? If you do, a force reload on the page. 266 00:23:29.970 --> 00:23:31.480 Ralf Koller: Default is not specified. 267 00:23:39.410 --> 00:23:42.680 Ofer Shaal: But that didn't come from this issue, I believe. Is that correct? 268 00:23:43.080 --> 00:23:44.239 Ofer Shaal: That dropdown. 269 00:23:47.040 --> 00:23:48.990 Ralf Koller: question, 1 s. 270 00:23:48.990 --> 00:23:52.690 Ofer Shaal: Assuming for people who, dealing with multilingual. They know what they're doing. 271 00:23:53.220 --> 00:23:55.119 Ofer Shaal: the pain they have to deal with. So 272 00:23:55.900 --> 00:23:59.560 Ofer Shaal: I would assume, it's not. It's probably needed. We just maybe not 273 00:23:59.710 --> 00:24:01.540 Ofer Shaal: sure. The the edge case of 274 00:24:02.040 --> 00:24:03.210 Ofer Shaal: how does it work? 275 00:24:04.080 --> 00:24:07.069 Ralf Koller: I quickly remove the patch, and we take another look. 276 00:24:09.765 --> 00:24:11.719 Benji Fisher: Or here I'll paste in the 277 00:24:11.850 --> 00:24:12.929 Benji Fisher: zoom slack. 278 00:24:13.850 --> 00:24:16.070 Benji Fisher: That's an embalming site. 279 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:18.439 Benji Fisher: It's just drupal core. So it's already 280 00:24:18.760 --> 00:24:20.220 Benji Fisher: 2 languages. 281 00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.339 Benji Fisher: and that's a tap. The patch applied. 282 00:24:31.450 --> 00:24:33.729 Ralf Koller: Yeah, that filter is missing. 283 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.100 Benji Fisher: So we definitely want to clarify that 284 00:25:19.500 --> 00:25:23.860 Ralf Koller: One idea, would it make sense instead of non-applicable 285 00:25:24.340 --> 00:25:28.680 Ralf Koller: to use basically the same label used on the language column 286 00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:33.910 Ralf Koller: and use non or non set. 287 00:25:41.280 --> 00:25:43.439 Benji Fisher: I was thinking of something like 288 00:25:47.070 --> 00:25:48.250 Benji Fisher: language 289 00:25:50.570 --> 00:25:52.490 Benji Fisher: as the 290 00:25:52.760 --> 00:25:57.329 Benji Fisher: as as the text you use in the in the box by default. 291 00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:04.829 Ralf Koller: Well, not for not specified. You mean. 292 00:26:07.199 --> 00:26:07.830 Benji Fisher: Right. 293 00:26:24.310 --> 00:26:26.230 Ralf Koller: Just languages also. Not 294 00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:27.639 Ralf Koller: clear. Huh? 295 00:26:28.020 --> 00:26:28.700 Ralf Koller: Clicking. 296 00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:37.249 Benji Fisher: And I guess the the other option would be to 297 00:26:37.260 --> 00:26:38.450 Benji Fisher: add a label 298 00:26:38.900 --> 00:26:42.700 Benji Fisher: to just that filter. It would look kind of weird. 299 00:26:43.010 --> 00:26:44.765 Benji Fisher: but I guess. 300 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:51.960 Benji Fisher: our our focus is usability, not not design or layout 301 00:26:54.590 --> 00:26:58.330 Benji Fisher: And just looking at the merge request, I see that it does add 302 00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:01.679 Benji Fisher: the the language code as well as as the path. 303 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:26.479 Benji Fisher: so so yeah, using 304 00:27:28.470 --> 00:27:29.890 Benji Fisher: using the same 305 00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:33.319 Benji Fisher: text as the column header makes a lot of sense to me. 306 00:27:36.660 --> 00:27:38.910 Benji Fisher: which is more or less what the 307 00:27:39.910 --> 00:27:41.649 Benji Fisher: the 2 text boxes 308 00:27:41.690 --> 00:27:42.799 Benji Fisher: are doing. 309 00:27:43.900 --> 00:27:47.370 Benji Fisher: except it's path, alias rather than just, alias recording. 310 00:27:47.570 --> 00:27:48.529 Benji Fisher: brought that up. 311 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:58.969 Benji Fisher: certainly would make sense as a label on on the dropdown list, the select list. 312 00:27:59.510 --> 00:28:02.729 Benji Fisher: And I wonder if, just for you know 313 00:28:02.760 --> 00:28:04.210 Benji Fisher: consistency? 314 00:28:07.520 --> 00:28:13.330 Benji Fisher: it. I wonder if it might work. If we just replace, not specified with language. 315 00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:38.910 Benji Fisher: we're sort of 316 00:28:40.100 --> 00:28:43.060 Benji Fisher: from usability, point of view. Would it be better 317 00:28:43.100 --> 00:28:46.930 Benji Fisher: to use labels rather than placeholder text, don't we often 318 00:28:51.780 --> 00:28:57.640 Benji Fisher: like is, is isn't placeholder text normally supposed to be an example of what you'd want to enter 319 00:28:57.700 --> 00:28:59.309 Benji Fisher: in the text box? 320 00:28:59.610 --> 00:29:00.990 Benji Fisher: And aren't we 321 00:29:01.360 --> 00:29:05.790 Benji Fisher: abusing that by putting in things that really should be labels? 322 00:29:06.760 --> 00:29:09.699 Benji Fisher: Oh, and I see Aaron Michael has joined us. 323 00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:12.050 Benji Fisher: Welcome, Aaron, go ahead, Ralph. 324 00:29:14.230 --> 00:29:15.210 Ralf Koller: I think. 325 00:29:15.870 --> 00:29:17.590 Ralf Koller: for the default, as 326 00:29:17.700 --> 00:29:20.249 Ralf Koller: if you get onto this onto the page 327 00:29:20.270 --> 00:29:21.460 Ralf Koller: and 328 00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:27.380 Ralf Koller: with no options shown and just having language. And 329 00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:32.679 Ralf Koller: basically those placeholders. Or, in the case, the label mirroring 330 00:29:32.820 --> 00:29:33.930 Ralf Koller: the 331 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:35.490 Ralf Koller: table headers. 332 00:29:35.550 --> 00:29:37.359 Ralf Koller: it makes sense. 333 00:29:37.390 --> 00:29:39.910 Ralf Koller: But as soon as you have 334 00:29:40.430 --> 00:29:42.279 Ralf Koller: those options open 335 00:29:42.830 --> 00:29:44.819 Ralf Koller: I rather 336 00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:50.060 Ralf Koller: consider it confusing, having, for example, English, German, and then language. 337 00:29:51.470 --> 00:29:53.010 Benji Fisher: Good. Point, yeah. 338 00:29:56.480 --> 00:30:04.490 Quynh Pham: But how can how can that node tie with with no language either English or arrows? Right? 339 00:30:05.940 --> 00:30:09.480 Quynh Pham: How come a note can associate with the language? None. 340 00:30:11.580 --> 00:30:17.509 Benji Fisher: Oh, I I think all of the nodes on on Ralph sample site do have language? None. 341 00:30:18.490 --> 00:30:22.780 Benji Fisher: Because he created all of those nodes before he enabled languages. 342 00:30:24.050 --> 00:30:26.810 Benji Fisher: That that is definitely an option. 343 00:30:28.060 --> 00:30:38.090 Benji Fisher: and it it saved in the database. Instead of saving en or de language code for English or German. It just sent saves, und. 344 00:30:40.375 --> 00:30:41.530 Quynh Pham: I see. Yeah. 345 00:30:41.870 --> 00:30:42.836 Quynh Pham: And then, 346 00:30:43.580 --> 00:30:44.930 Quynh Pham: yeah, when we 347 00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:49.559 Quynh Pham: aside to another language and u, and d cause problem. 348 00:30:57.770 --> 00:30:58.730 Benji Fisher: Yeah, I'm 349 00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:00.330 Benji Fisher: I'm thinking. 350 00:31:00.390 --> 00:31:03.279 Benji Fisher: yeah, Ralph is perfectly correct. That that 351 00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.860 Benji Fisher: replacing, not specified with language is a bad idea. So I retract that suggestion. 352 00:31:08.990 --> 00:31:13.369 Benji Fisher: I think that the solution is to use labels for the labels for all 3 353 00:31:13.970 --> 00:31:16.140 Benji Fisher: that will make them look consistent. 354 00:31:19.630 --> 00:31:22.740 Benji Fisher: and don't use placeholder text 355 00:31:22.950 --> 00:31:24.100 Benji Fisher: for labels 356 00:31:25.250 --> 00:31:26.609 Benji Fisher: agree, disagree. 357 00:31:29.560 --> 00:31:31.529 Benji Fisher: I get a thumbs up from Aaron. 358 00:31:34.070 --> 00:31:39.079 Ralf Koller: I would have just a question. What do you mean with labels? How would it look like? 359 00:31:40.460 --> 00:31:42.919 Ralf Koller: It's not clear to me at the moment 360 00:31:44.310 --> 00:31:45.460 Ralf Koller: within 361 00:31:46.500 --> 00:31:50.410 Ralf Koller: that list have a different label? Or 362 00:31:50.430 --> 00:31:53.200 Ralf Koller: what do you mean with labels in that context? 363 00:31:53.360 --> 00:31:56.489 Benji Fisher: Oh, go to admin content or something. 364 00:31:59.151 --> 00:32:01.409 Benji Fisher: There we go, content. Type. 365 00:32:02.700 --> 00:32:09.099 Benji Fisher: title, content type. Publish, say this language. So those are the labels on on the filter elements. 366 00:32:09.370 --> 00:32:10.529 Ralf Koller: I have it. Okay. 367 00:32:11.300 --> 00:32:14.860 Benji Fisher: Well, that's the table. Go go above the filter elements. 368 00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:16.869 Benji Fisher: and you see 369 00:32:17.350 --> 00:32:20.239 Benji Fisher: right above for your cursors, it says language 370 00:32:20.730 --> 00:32:22.210 Benji Fisher: that's the label I'm talking about. 371 00:32:22.210 --> 00:32:23.207 Ralf Koller: Out of the 372 00:32:23.990 --> 00:32:25.610 Ralf Koller: authentic. Okay, okay. 373 00:32:27.990 --> 00:32:29.250 Ralf Koller: no. It's clear. 374 00:32:29.590 --> 00:32:31.390 Ralf Koller: What do you meant? Okay. 375 00:32:39.080 --> 00:32:39.800 Ralf Koller: okay. 376 00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.029 Ralf Koller: And that way, we would only have 377 00:32:45.150 --> 00:32:49.909 Ralf Koller: 3 options left. Then, if we go with a label of language, there. 378 00:32:51.137 --> 00:32:54.439 Benji Fisher: I think you'd still have the same 4 options. 379 00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:04.250 Benji Fisher: and I'm I'm not sure why, it's different here from the Admin content page. 380 00:33:13.550 --> 00:33:15.758 Aaron McHale: Hi! Sorry I joined late. 381 00:33:17.970 --> 00:33:22.700 Aaron McHale: but is, is this issue about adding filters to real alias? 382 00:33:26.630 --> 00:33:27.560 Benji Fisher: Yes. 383 00:33:28.290 --> 00:33:29.440 Benji Fisher: So 384 00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:33.439 Benji Fisher: currently, there is just a filter on the alias. 385 00:33:33.540 --> 00:33:37.190 Benji Fisher: and this adds a separate filter for the system path. 386 00:33:38.020 --> 00:33:38.990 Aaron McHale: Okay. 387 00:33:39.820 --> 00:33:41.700 Aaron McHale: then, yes, but 388 00:33:42.120 --> 00:33:46.009 Aaron McHale: I I I think it needs to be consistent with everywhere else, and 389 00:33:46.290 --> 00:33:48.160 Aaron McHale: using labels is 390 00:33:48.220 --> 00:33:49.540 Aaron McHale: being consistent. 391 00:33:50.550 --> 00:33:52.940 Aaron McHale: as we see here on admin content. 392 00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:09.770 Ralf Koller: But taking a look at admin content. Here you have 393 00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:12.469 Ralf Koller: forborn Annie as the default. 394 00:34:12.650 --> 00:34:15.940 Ralf Koller: but then you also have not specified, and not applicable 395 00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:22.840 Ralf Koller: as well, and in addition to that, in regards of consistency on here, it's without dashes. 396 00:34:24.870 --> 00:34:26.300 Ralf Koller: Compatch to 397 00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:30.139 Ralf Koller: the URLU. RL. Aliases. 398 00:34:31.989 --> 00:34:35.449 Benji Fisher: On the other hand, looking at the merch request, I see that 399 00:34:35.889 --> 00:34:38.359 Benji Fisher: it's using just a standard 400 00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:39.999 Benji Fisher: form element. 401 00:34:41.739 --> 00:34:46.579 Benji Fisher: So I I think, changing the options there 402 00:34:46.929 --> 00:34:51.659 Benji Fisher: should be considered out of scope. But I I would want to investigate why. 403 00:34:52.049 --> 00:34:55.259 Benji Fisher: it doesn't work the way I thought it would 404 00:34:56.139 --> 00:34:58.149 Benji Fisher: let me see, offers anything else. 405 00:35:02.369 --> 00:35:04.219 Benji Fisher: and I'd wanted you 406 00:35:04.839 --> 00:35:07.269 Benji Fisher: a little investigation on 407 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.179 Benji Fisher: exactly what that 408 00:35:09.369 --> 00:35:11.049 Benji Fisher: form element is doing. 409 00:35:14.969 --> 00:35:16.279 Benji Fisher: because I 410 00:35:19.939 --> 00:35:25.289 Benji Fisher: I I really expected that not specified and not applicable, would have the same effect. 411 00:35:25.329 --> 00:35:27.749 Benji Fisher: I want to understand why why they don't. 412 00:35:30.799 --> 00:35:33.629 Benji Fisher: which isn't really a usability 413 00:35:33.799 --> 00:35:35.599 Benji Fisher: issue. But I guess. 414 00:35:39.739 --> 00:35:40.429 Benji Fisher: Yampy. 415 00:35:40.869 --> 00:35:42.459 Benji Fisher: it's something I'd like to know. 416 00:35:56.310 --> 00:36:02.629 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I think it probably makes sense to the language structure and should have the same basic options as what we see in content 417 00:36:03.370 --> 00:36:04.240 Aaron McHale: from. 418 00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.289 Aaron McHale: Yeah. Like, yeah, I wonder why it doesn't. 419 00:36:07.420 --> 00:36:08.330 Aaron McHale: If it's 420 00:36:09.420 --> 00:36:10.450 Aaron McHale: but these are 421 00:36:10.640 --> 00:36:13.269 Aaron McHale: should be populated the same way, I would guess. But. 422 00:36:17.943 --> 00:36:20.838 Benji Fisher: I guess I can sort of answer that. 423 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:29.539 Benji Fisher: here, from what? When I looked at the the merge request, I I see that it's using a standard form Api element for selecting the language. 424 00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:32.499 Benji Fisher: Admin content is a view. 425 00:36:33.848 --> 00:36:35.890 Benji Fisher: You actually, if you disable. 426 00:36:35.890 --> 00:36:36.810 Aaron McHale: Oh, sure! 427 00:36:36.810 --> 00:36:38.959 Benji Fisher: Or uninstalled views. Module. 428 00:36:39.060 --> 00:36:44.477 Benji Fisher: There's a a different page with similar functionality, but 429 00:36:45.420 --> 00:36:47.700 Benji Fisher: but but less and 430 00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:49.820 Benji Fisher: probably 431 00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:52.029 Benji Fisher: you'll see 432 00:36:54.260 --> 00:36:56.660 Benji Fisher: you'll you'll see a very similar language 433 00:36:57.740 --> 00:36:59.790 Benji Fisher: selector there. 434 00:37:00.030 --> 00:37:02.639 Benji Fisher: if if you uninstall the fuse module. 435 00:37:06.420 --> 00:37:11.010 Benji Fisher: I I wonder why this page is not with you. 436 00:37:12.780 --> 00:37:15.188 Benji Fisher: probably it should be but 437 00:37:16.270 --> 00:37:21.730 Benji Fisher: that would be a follow up, and and then it could be made more consistent with that in content. 438 00:37:22.600 --> 00:37:23.340 Aaron McHale: Yeah. 439 00:37:30.020 --> 00:37:31.200 Ralf Koller: Oh, okay. 440 00:37:33.710 --> 00:37:35.300 Ralf Koller: so basically. 441 00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:39.889 Ralf Koller: the recommendations to summarize everything. 442 00:37:40.670 --> 00:37:42.389 Ralf Koller: We are fine having 443 00:37:42.940 --> 00:37:43.690 Ralf Koller: tool 444 00:37:44.870 --> 00:37:48.379 Ralf Koller: search boxes, one for pad areas and one for system path. 445 00:37:50.630 --> 00:37:52.300 Ralf Koller: The only thing. 446 00:37:52.430 --> 00:38:04.670 Ralf Koller: probably out of the scope for this issue is the consistency of the title. One is alias and Path, alias, and then you, you, URL aliases. So 3 different labels for the same thing. 447 00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:08.140 Ralf Koller: And in regards of 448 00:38:08.170 --> 00:38:09.469 Ralf Koller: that language 449 00:38:09.990 --> 00:38:11.229 Ralf Koller: select list 450 00:38:11.720 --> 00:38:12.850 Ralf Koller: to go 451 00:38:13.380 --> 00:38:17.040 Ralf Koller: being consistent and go with labels for all of the 452 00:38:17.340 --> 00:38:18.660 Ralf Koller: options here 453 00:38:18.950 --> 00:38:19.890 Ralf Koller: and 454 00:38:20.450 --> 00:38:23.640 Ralf Koller: the options in here, probably also out of scope 455 00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:25.280 Ralf Koller: for this issue. 456 00:38:25.410 --> 00:38:27.340 Ralf Koller: but definitely 457 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:32.289 Ralf Koller: on a broader scale, because, yeah, not specific and not applicable 458 00:38:34.020 --> 00:38:39.780 Ralf Koller: in the context of language I consider confusing, and in particular for me, is not applicable 459 00:38:40.600 --> 00:38:42.579 Ralf Koller: the stretch to non 460 00:38:42.850 --> 00:38:44.400 Ralf Koller: sort of confusing 461 00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.869 Ralf Koller: and not directly associated. 462 00:38:50.180 --> 00:38:51.868 Quynh Pham: Yes, agree with you. 463 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.590 Quynh Pham: rough, because for me, too, it's just 464 00:38:57.270 --> 00:39:01.330 Quynh Pham: what's not not specified. That's mean what this. 465 00:39:01.810 --> 00:39:06.080 Quynh Pham: and not applicable. Almost the same in this case. 466 00:39:06.160 --> 00:39:08.611 Quynh Pham: and then it seemed like Repeat 467 00:39:09.600 --> 00:39:10.960 Quynh Pham: again, and 468 00:39:11.330 --> 00:39:13.410 Quynh Pham: kind of confused user. 469 00:39:16.080 --> 00:39:23.330 Benji Fisher: Yeah, it's it's definitely confusing. But I I still say it's it's out of scope. And I'm going to say that if we're going to ask 470 00:39:23.490 --> 00:39:28.159 Benji Fisher: to replace to to use labels instead of placeholder text. 471 00:39:28.240 --> 00:39:32.710 Benji Fisher: Then as long as we're doing that, let's make them consistent with the 472 00:39:32.850 --> 00:39:35.750 Benji Fisher: column headers and use just alias. 473 00:39:37.430 --> 00:39:39.010 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I was gonna say that as well. 474 00:39:40.460 --> 00:39:41.170 Aaron McHale: Yep. 475 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:53.580 Aaron McHale: yep. 476 00:39:55.010 --> 00:39:58.429 Ralf Koller: Let's go with alias instead, is sensible definitely. 477 00:40:02.950 --> 00:40:12.070 Ralf Koller: And, as I said, probably changing also, the H one would entail a lot of documentation changes. And yeah, that is all of scope. 478 00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:25.449 Benji Fisher: And and at least we'll just be using 2 different terms instead of 3 different terms. I don't see path, alias anywhere else on the page, the H. One, the line at the top of help. Text 479 00:40:26.290 --> 00:40:31.920 Benji Fisher: column header. None of those, says Pat. So let's not introduce it. 480 00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:40.819 Ralf Koller: And, technically speaking, if you go with alias in here, it could be considered as a shorthand of URL, alias, and therefore 481 00:40:41.600 --> 00:40:43.020 Ralf Koller: it's probably fine. 482 00:40:43.240 --> 00:40:43.860 Benji Fisher: Yes. 483 00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:48.380 Ralf Koller: And one 484 00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:49.255 Ralf Koller: detail. 485 00:40:50.290 --> 00:40:52.410 Ralf Koller: I came across, and always 486 00:40:52.500 --> 00:40:56.350 Ralf Koller: considering, just wanted to know every else's thoughts about 487 00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:03.320 Ralf Koller: I thought about it already in the context of, for example. 488 00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:06.149 Ralf Koller: the block layout issue with a filter 489 00:41:06.350 --> 00:41:07.750 Ralf Koller: functionality there 490 00:41:08.070 --> 00:41:09.840 Ralf Koller: at the moment. If you have 491 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:11.710 Ralf Koller: catch, for example. 492 00:41:12.656 --> 00:41:13.630 Ralf Koller: and search. 493 00:41:18.070 --> 00:41:26.409 Ralf Koller: then you have basically the reset button. But at the same time you have in line in here that button to clear the filter. 494 00:41:27.570 --> 00:41:28.600 Ralf Koller: But that 495 00:41:28.670 --> 00:41:35.120 Ralf Koller: button is basically a browser functionality and is not consistent across browsers. For example. 496 00:41:35.350 --> 00:41:36.730 Ralf Koller: safari has it. 497 00:41:37.070 --> 00:41:42.210 Ralf Koller: Chrome-based browsers have it, but Firefox, for example, does not. 498 00:41:42.610 --> 00:41:43.700 Ralf Koller: and 499 00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:45.960 Ralf Koller: also the behavior 500 00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:48.219 Ralf Koller: between reset and that 501 00:41:49.450 --> 00:41:52.490 Ralf Koller: clear. The filter button is also inconsistent. And 502 00:41:53.330 --> 00:41:58.530 Ralf Koller: maybe it would be a good thing to open up an issue I was considering 503 00:41:58.870 --> 00:42:00.880 Ralf Koller: to have a consistent. 504 00:42:01.260 --> 00:42:03.660 Ralf Koller: basically in line button across 505 00:42:04.150 --> 00:42:06.510 Ralf Koller: browsers that is consistent. 506 00:42:14.880 --> 00:42:15.870 Benji Fisher: You can 507 00:42:16.180 --> 00:42:20.310 Benji Fisher: open an issue for that. If you think it's a good idea, I generally 508 00:42:20.630 --> 00:42:23.369 Benji Fisher: feel that we shouldn't be fighting 509 00:42:23.660 --> 00:42:25.482 Benji Fisher: the browsers that 510 00:42:26.700 --> 00:42:30.289 Benji Fisher: we we should let let the browsers do what they think is right. 511 00:42:33.860 --> 00:42:37.190 Ralf Koller: Yeah, on one hand, I agree. But, on the other hand, it's 512 00:42:37.830 --> 00:42:43.759 Ralf Koller: still a bit confusing in in. For example, if you have no cat. I've cleared it. But still 513 00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:52.969 Ralf Koller: it's not necessarily clear to a user. If that button belongs to in air quotes drupal or to the browser. 514 00:42:54.060 --> 00:42:57.650 Ralf Koller: and therefore you get to inconsistent behavior. 515 00:43:01.310 --> 00:43:08.870 Ralf Koller: and having now you have that button, then you have the filter button, and there is. If you go now to filter again that works. 516 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:11.549 Ralf Koller: but you have still the reset. 517 00:43:15.100 --> 00:43:15.760 Ralf Koller: Yep. 518 00:43:16.110 --> 00:43:17.599 Benji Fisher: Yeah. So here we have 519 00:43:17.630 --> 00:43:19.600 Benji Fisher: 3 different filters. 520 00:43:20.150 --> 00:43:23.919 Benji Fisher: and they might all have something 521 00:43:25.051 --> 00:43:27.710 Benji Fisher: in them. And then the 522 00:43:28.910 --> 00:43:35.309 Benji Fisher: the the little x that the browser provides gives a way to clear just one of the filters. 523 00:43:36.470 --> 00:43:41.149 Benji Fisher: or you might want to clear 2 of the filters, or you might want to change one of them. 524 00:43:42.074 --> 00:43:46.059 Benji Fisher: So it's it does provide functionality 525 00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.890 Benji Fisher: that otherwise you'd have to. I don't know double click, and then 526 00:43:51.650 --> 00:43:54.160 Benji Fisher: delete get the same effect. 527 00:43:56.180 --> 00:43:59.209 Benji Fisher: So it it does provide some functionality that's 528 00:43:59.350 --> 00:44:02.349 Benji Fisher: not easily done. Other ways. 529 00:44:04.070 --> 00:44:06.599 Aaron McHale: Does anything happen when you click, reset button. 530 00:44:07.390 --> 00:44:08.020 Benji Fisher: Yes. 531 00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:10.806 Aaron McHale: It just button goes away. 532 00:44:12.500 --> 00:44:16.489 Ralf Koller: In that case, because the results before were the full 533 00:44:16.700 --> 00:44:19.460 Ralf Koller: search result. But if you go to get 534 00:44:21.110 --> 00:44:23.819 Ralf Koller: oh, but that's that's oh, no, it's working. 535 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:29.439 Aaron McHale: Yeah, then, didn't you take that out? A new price filter? But the reset button state there. 536 00:44:30.470 --> 00:44:31.160 Aaron McHale: Yep. 537 00:44:31.720 --> 00:44:34.379 Aaron McHale: so press. Wait. Can you press filter again. 538 00:44:34.490 --> 00:44:36.029 Aaron McHale: Not reset filter. 539 00:44:37.260 --> 00:44:42.929 Aaron McHale: Yeah. So the reset button should disappear. I think there's something broken there with the logic. 540 00:44:43.150 --> 00:44:44.000 Ralf Koller: Oh, yep! 541 00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:48.010 Ralf Koller: Get it done. 542 00:44:48.010 --> 00:44:54.779 Aaron McHale: It's one of the I think there's a lot of like side effects of the fact that we're not using use. And like also that the fact that like 543 00:44:54.960 --> 00:45:01.599 Aaron McHale: technically, yeah, it should be okay that you can disable the views module and the stuff shouldn't depend on views, but on and on the other hand, like. 544 00:45:03.450 --> 00:45:04.069 Benji Fisher: Good question. 545 00:45:04.070 --> 00:45:14.259 Aaron McHale: Whether that's a sense of idea, you know, like, maybe the views module should be a dependency of this, and we just ever is just using the same for node. I don't know. 546 00:45:16.200 --> 00:45:18.840 Aaron McHale: It's probably not 2 skills of thought than that. But 547 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:19.680 Aaron McHale: yeah. 548 00:45:22.180 --> 00:45:24.660 Benji Fisher: Yeah, let's just add a follow up issue with that. 549 00:45:24.660 --> 00:45:29.219 Aaron McHale: Yeah, I'm just. I'm just absorbing things now, not being helpful. 550 00:45:32.870 --> 00:45:36.689 Benji Fisher: Provide a views version of this page that 551 00:45:37.070 --> 00:45:39.510 Benji Fisher: is more consistent with admin content. 552 00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:42.680 Aaron McHale: Yeah. 553 00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:49.070 Quynh Pham: Hey, Ralph? May I see something? 554 00:45:49.430 --> 00:45:50.404 Quynh Pham: And you were 555 00:45:50.770 --> 00:45:55.119 Quynh Pham: will you type the word cat in the path areas field 556 00:45:56.020 --> 00:45:57.999 Quynh Pham: and then hit filter. 557 00:46:01.220 --> 00:46:03.829 Quynh Pham: Okay. Now, would you hit reset 558 00:46:04.100 --> 00:46:04.840 Quynh Pham: pardon? 559 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.759 Quynh Pham: Okay. Alright, that's all I need to see. Thank you. 560 00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:12.920 Ralf Koller: Okay. 561 00:46:23.770 --> 00:46:26.430 Benji Fisher: Alright! Are we done with this issue? 562 00:46:27.070 --> 00:46:27.930 Ralf Koller: Think so. 563 00:46:30.080 --> 00:46:31.590 Ralf Koller: I write up a comment. 564 00:46:31.980 --> 00:46:32.900 Benji Fisher: Thank you, Ralph. 565 00:46:36.403 --> 00:46:39.220 Benji Fisher: We have a little less than 20 min left. 566 00:46:40.060 --> 00:46:42.240 Benji Fisher: Is there another issue 567 00:46:42.470 --> 00:46:44.329 Benji Fisher: anyone would like to bring up. 568 00:46:52.890 --> 00:46:54.700 Ralf Koller: Let's end early this time. 569 00:46:55.140 --> 00:46:56.909 Ralf Koller: as we said before, because 570 00:46:56.940 --> 00:47:02.840 Ralf Koller: at least me, I don't have any issue probably properly prepared, so. 571 00:47:05.020 --> 00:47:06.060 Aaron McHale: Me, neither. 572 00:47:06.570 --> 00:47:09.823 Benji Fisher: A, and it is relatively small group. So 573 00:47:11.830 --> 00:47:13.080 Benji Fisher: I agree. 574 00:47:14.850 --> 00:47:16.978 Benji Fisher: Thank you for coming 575 00:47:19.710 --> 00:47:20.690 Benji Fisher: and 576 00:47:20.840 --> 00:47:22.610 Benji Fisher: try. Do it again next week. 577 00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:23.900 Benji Fisher: Edit, and 578 00:47:24.930 --> 00:47:26.779 Benji Fisher: try to make Tuple better. 579 00:47:27.220 --> 00:47:28.950 Aaron McHale: Hey? Thanks. Everyone. 580 00:47:29.170 --> 00:47:30.309 Ralf Koller: And so thank you. 581 00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:31.900 Ralf Koller: Take care of a nice weekend. 582 00:47:31.900 --> 00:47:32.760 Aaron McHale: More room.