DrupalSib http://groups.drupal.org/drupalsib has been requested as a new group.

I'm a tentative +1 - honestly, when I first saw the group, I didn't think they'd even get to their current 5 members.

However, the name should not contain 'Drupal' - I'd suggest changing it to just 'Siberia' if you're including all of Siberia and not just the South. Or 'Eastern Russia' or something more specific to the region. (Everything I know about Eastern Russian geography I learned from 2 minutes on wikipedia.)

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dddave’s picture

Issue summary: View changes
Status: Active » Needs work

I am going to approve this group if the name change happens. Like the activity and from the marketplace I know that there is a good community out there.

dddave’s picture

Status: Needs work » Fixed

I've changed the name and approved the Group.

dddave’s picture

Status: Fixed » Needs work

csandanov has changed the name back so I guess we'll have to discuss this.

Senpai’s picture

Agreed on the Needs Work. Problem is, I'm not sure the group organizer(s) realize their group is currently in moderation and not visible, because they continue to post new content in it even as of last week. What to do about that?

sreynen’s picture

Has anyone invited the group owners to participate in this discussion? If not, we should do that.

dddave’s picture

I did. See referenced issue.

sreynen’s picture

So the previous group owner asked for an ownership change, but none of the owners asked for the group to be moderated, which makes this a little complicated. Usually groups don't get moderated until the group owner asks for moderation. That way we're not moderating groups with no members and rejecting them for being inactive before they have a chance to get started. That wasn't really intended for groups to stay unapproved forever, but I'm not sure it's really a problem if groups what to do that, and it seems like maybe this group does.

Now that we have a moderation issue, it looks like we're not approving the group because the name includes "Drupal". Is that a policy? I don't see it mentioned in the guidelines at http://groups.drupal.org/guidelines-for-forming-new-groups

We have several already-approved groups with "Drupal" in the name, e.g.:

https://groups.drupal.org/orange-county
https://groups.drupal.org/estonia
https://groups.drupal.org/nebraska
https://groups.drupal.org/drupal-sao-paulo
https://groups.drupal.org/drupal-wyoming

Some of those have Drupal in the name but not the URL path, while others have it in both. And those are only geographic groups. There are also groups like http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-jobs or http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-for-good where it's hard to imagine the name without "Drupal".

I think maybe we should have a policy about using the word "Drupal" in group names, but we need to define it and document it before we apply it to a group moderation, especially a moderation that wasn't requested. Meanwhile, I think we should either set this to postponed or approve the group for now (assuming the name is the only concern) and revisit it along with the other relevant groups after we have a clear policy.

chingis’s picture

Component: New Group Proposal » User Account

Thanks for feedback.
I'm a group owner of DrupalSib and one of the organizers.
I'm requesting for group moderation

We're the most active community in Russia and we want to spread the word about us.

sreynen’s picture

Component: User Account » New Group Moderation

csandanov, can you share your thoughts on changing the group name from "DrupalSib" to something like "Siberia"?

chingis’s picture

We already have legal entity, it's officially named DrupalSib (Russian ДрупалСиб)
DrupalSib is an official nonprofit partnership, founded in 2011
Articles of association (russian): http://drupalsib.ru/content/ustav-nekommercheskogo-partnerstva-po-prodvi...
Terms of membership (russian): http://drupalsib.ru/content/polozhenie-o-chlenstve-v-np-drupalsib

Well, all we want is just popularize Drupal in Siberia and throughout Russia, how can we do it without using word "Drupal"?
I can try to write a mail to Dries, ask to his agreement, but I already tried to do the same regarding our commercial brand DrupalJedi (https://www.drupal.org/marketplace/drupaljedi) and he didn't responded.

dddave’s picture

For the record: I am fine with the name "DrupalSib".

sreynen’s picture

Status: Needs work » Fixed

Okay, I approved the group. I still think the name could be improved, but that can always happen outside moderation.

Status: Fixed » Closed (fixed)

Automatically closed - issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.