Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Kristen, CaliforniaI asked this question but I'm not sure what to put 🙂 I'll look up some and find one I like in a bit :smile: (edited) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Going through quotes and I like this one and it is very appropriate given the last few yearsWhen you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. (Franklin D. Roosevelt) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I like this one tooDo what you can, with what you have, where you are. (Teddy Roosevelt) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
This one is sweetTry to be a rainbow in someone else's cloud. (Maya Angelou) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I've always liked this oneDarkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. (Martin Luther King Jr.) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
And this was one of my mom's favoritesDon't cry because it's over, smile because it happened. (Dr. Seuss) |
VinmayiSwamy |
Vinmayi, India :wave:I like this quote : "Dream is not that which you see while sleeping. It is something that does not let you sleep." - Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam |
gregg_marshall |
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results (often mis-attributed to Einstein) |
kimb0 |
Kim :wave: |
Vighnesh Sadagopal |
Vighneshh, India :wave: |
AmyJune (volkswagenchick) |
AmyJune coming in from California, USA. From a fortune cookie, “Begin, the rest is easy.” |
Henideepak |
Deepak Bhati, India :wave:"Error" - the teacher who teaches the most. |
Tinto |
Thijs, Amsterdam, NL 🙋"Quality without results is pointless. Results without quality is boring." - Johan Cruyff |
Zoocha Will |
Will, Cambridge, UK'Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts' Winston Churchill |
omkar-pd |
Omkar, India:blob_wave:“In a conflict between the heart and the brain, follow your heart. ”― Swami Vivekananda |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I haven't looked at the doc yet :sad-panda: |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
This is the document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TfD8lSSDyujTbIBNuJU4cr9ohAXsnzMn3IFB... |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I added all the info from the application and started filling it it |
gusaus |
:wave: Maybe pick up from this point in the last meeting? |
gusaus |
Actually... looking at the doc it seems like we have consensus around the 'Drupal contribution' part of the name. :joy:Think we can fine tune in the doc and comments. |
gusaus |
I made a few comments and revisions to the doc. There basically are two questions we need to answer (each with a 250 character limit). Think we mainly need a clear/concise answer to the second one. |
gusaus |
So lets come up with a couple semi-clear answers and submit before the end of the week :clapper: |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
It’s on my focus list for today so that’s a start :) |
gusaus |
Wow - what a concept - not sure if I could even do that. Hence I'm unfocused. :sweat_smile: |
gusaus |
That said, I think we can decouple the application from the larger plan to sustain and cross that one off the list. |
gusaus |
We really just need a sentence or two - having been through the process myself, I'm pretty sure it'll get approved without any issues.Once that happens, it'll be a motivator to clarify the goals and needs since we'll need something compelling to go on the collective. |
gusaus |
Once we have a collective (which could essentially function like an agency that can not only pay contributors but hire employees) there will be all sorts of contribution and collaboration possibilities with other projects/groups using Open Collective. Maybe even ones like this 📣https://twitter.com/gusaus/status/1575626018622435328 |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
You should seen my "short list" (~70 items) and my "long lists" (multiple pages) :smile: I've started the sticky note thing only in the last few weeks where I go through my "short list" and pull what I hope to finish that day. It's been working pretty well. That said, I already got distracted a couple times today on stuff I wasn't planning on spending time on 🙂 (edited) |
gusaus |
...yes like talking to me instead of crossing the OC app off the list :joy: I'm not exactly a clear/concise writer or thinker (as you already know), so I can't help beyond the comments/revisions on the doc. I can help get it approved if there are any issues - then help at least outline goals / needs and onboard contributors thereafter. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I’m going for a walk and then this will be my next item… hopefully will be done in 3 hours |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I have 2 paragraphs that are 244 characters each (edited) |
gusaus |
So is there one less item on today's focus list :grinning: |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Well, I need to submit it :) |
gusaus |
I'm on standby to help here or over on the Open Collective side of the Slacks |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Let me do it now before I do other work |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Submitted! |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
@gusaus You may have received an email |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://opencollective.com/drupal-contribution |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
If I knew the text was going to show up here, I would have probably reworded to be more public-facing but that can be done later |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
hmm... maybe I already made an account... I see a 1 after my profile link https://opencollective.com/kristen-pol1 |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I may want to switch that at some point and swap it with the original |
gusaus |
📣 I got the email and accepted! |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
yep: https://opencollective.com/kristen-pol |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
hmm.. I guess I'll sort it after they approve |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I guess if I would have used my regular email address it may have figured it out |
gusaus |
Yes - everything can be modified - and you will not be responsible for doing it all! Probably should create an issue to focus on what we want to do with the collective. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Yeah, we'll need to update/close/create issues |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I'm way over my contribution hours for this week though so I'll need to park it for next week |
gusaus |
This is a major accomplishment - we can work out the details in the issue queue (and maybe the same google doc) next week. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Yeah, might as well use that doc 🙂 |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Thanks again for your persistence... that's the only thing that made it happen :smile: |
gusaus |
Thank you for taking to initiative to create the initiative :raised_hands: I think just knowing we have a collective will be a motivator for current and new contributors. 📣 |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Yeah... it will be interesting to figure out how to get donations and how to best spend the $ 🙂 |
gusaus |
We're having some parallel conversations on that topic in OC Slack - but I think this issue/comment describes a key piece we'll hopefully be able to launch if @Keegan Rankin and some of colleagues are interested in making #sustaindrupal a reality. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I haven’t looked at that slack in some time :disappointed: |
gusaus |
We need to make it so you shouldn't have to (unless you want to). As a 'Drupal Contribution' initiative we should be able to create or modify a contributor role where one of the responsibilities will be to serve as a bridge between OC Slack and the drupal.org mothership :drupalparrot: |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Sounds great :+1: |
Keegan Rankin |
Wow awesome work! I was MIA from this thread this week, but glad to see the application submitted. Definitely motivating in regards to trying to start up a SustainDrupal collective. I'll start a document for that application as well, and then next focus on finding another admin |
gusaus |
Hopefully we'll be able to close out this issue in the near future 📣 https://www.drupal.org/project/contribution_events/issues/3294434 |
gusaus |
With regards to SustainDrupal... if what I'm saying in this comment makes sense, that application process would be different if Open Source Collective was the host -SustainDrupal- enabling sustainable projects (including funding and contribution tools)- hosted by Open Source Collective, 501c6 (https://opencollective.com/opensource#category-ABOUT) |
gusaus |
@Kristen Pol (she/her) :wave: I'm a little surprised https://opencollective.com/drupal-contribution is still pending.Have you heard anything back from OCF? As admin I was assuming I'd also be in the loop but could be wrong.If we haven't heard from 'em I'll followup in their Slack channel. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Sorry, I owe them more detail. You weren’t cced? I’ve been slammed. I’ll need to make this a priority later today after errands |
gusaus |
Ahhh... that explains it. No I wasn't cc'd. No worries - is there anything I can help with? Maybe we can just work off the google doc if you need help providing additional detail and answers. (edited) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
They want more details on how the funds will be used |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
If you want to jot down stuff in the doc, I’ll look later when I’m home |
gusaus |
That's weird - how do they expect us to provide all that in less than 250 characters :sweat_smile:Sure, I'll add more detail to the doc when I get a chance. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I know, it’s very odd to have such few allowed characters IMO |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
My “to do” lists have lists… I’m out most of today but am going to try super hard to do this tonight |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I’m too tired… didn’t sleep enough last night and was in class 8 hours so… there’s always tomorrow |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I sent them the additional info |
gusaus |
Sorry you felt compelled to do this over the weekend - that said :raised_hands: :thankful: |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
every day is Monday in my house :stuck_out_tongue: |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Any thoughts on timing in October and/or November? |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Anyone want to lead/co-lead? |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Anything we can improve upon from the last event documentation or process wise? |
FeyP |
Anything we can improve upon from the last event documentation or process wise?You're probably already aware of it and maybe it has even been addressed already, but there was some feedback posted in the D10 readiness meeting on August 30:https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C014CT1CN1M/p1661853958927359?thread_t... |
FeyP |
Any thoughts on timingPersonally, I think this could even be multiple days, if we can find enough mentors willing to help, and preferably one of the days would be on a weekend. If I wanted to participate (in whatever capacity) I usually can't during work days. |
FeyP |
Something else I'm interested in is what would be the requirements to be a mentor? I probably have the required knowledge w/r/t porting modules and also have some mentoring experience, because mentoring people is an important part of my job, but I'm not sure if there are any requirements specific to mentoring for Drupal events like this. I looked at the resources linked from the channel, but I didn't find any documentation on this. |
kalabro |
we had mentor requirements straight in the event description: https://www.drupal.org/community/events/drupal-10-global-porting-day-aug... again highlights lack of documentation structure |
FeyP |
Thanks! Yeah, I thought that it was probably there somewhere and I just didn't find it. I expected this to be some kind of general documentation not tied to a specific event, so I didn't look in the old event description. But reading it, it makes sense that it is there, because it probably depends a bit on the specific event. I think I meet these requirements, I'll apply for the next event, if I have time. |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Awesome feedback… I should get these captured in an issue so they don’t get lost |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I'm collecting this here: https://www.drupal.org/project/contribution_events/issues/3312182 |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Adding this as I missed it before |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1664262300212449?thread_t... |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I would suggest tapping into some of the feedback from the DrupalCon Prague mentors as it's fresh in their minds and that was in-person |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1664255606682859 |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Sounds like having ample mentors and making sure the mentors have been prepped/trained is one thing |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
Depending on what you are focused on, having documentation to refer to can be helpful for both mentors and contributors... we do have some D10 porting docs though there should be some improvements to that based on feedback |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
https://drupal.slack.com/archives/C03FH8GTB1A/p1664315338323749?thread_t... |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
If it's bugsmash stuff then I'm not sure we have any event-related documentation for that but at least the initiative docs are pretty good as you know |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I don't know if people are masking/distancing but, if they are, then doing screensharing from computer even if in-person was something that was suggested for DrupalCon (edited) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
I don't know if there are plans for any "new mentor workshop" type thing... you may not have the numbers/interest for that... if you have enough mentors to help one-on-one with onboarding then it's probably not needed |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
having shirts for mentors is helpful... usually the DrupalCon mentor shirts are an obvious color (yellow/red/bright green/etc) so that it's easy to find mentors (edited) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
just rattling things off... you may already know/do these things |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
side note, the mentor dinners were always a highlight for me if that may be something of interest to your group |
kimb0 |
thanks @Kristen Pol (she/her)! |
irinaz |
@kimb0 One thing that is becoming more common is participation from folks all over the world, and what helpful there is "showing your timezone" on events feature. I would like to try to join sprint, but I am always having trouble figuring out times/dates all over the world 🙂 (edited) |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
The world buddy thing has been helpful for me |
Kristen Pol (she/her) |
But I work in Eastern Australian time zone for work so I’ve gotten used to that conversion… though the 2 daylight savings time changes are shifting things… 1 hour so far and another hour in November when the US does theirs |
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