By Vidarls on

Has anyone here any experience in developing with EZ publish CSM (www.ez.no). My boss wanted me to start learning EZ, so that they could offer sites build with EZ publish. (Now why would anyone not want to use Drupal.. :P )
So I wonder if anyone have any experience with EZ developing aswell as Drupal, and could tell me if it is as easy to get into developing on that platform as it is for Drupal.
Or maybe give me som good arguments for ditching EZ.
I want to use Drupal, cause I know my way around it, and can basically make it do whatever I want (except E-commerce) in not too long time. But that should maybe not stop me for learning an additional system. But for what I could see browsing the EZ site and forums, there are not too much documentation around, if any. I did however find a book for $59 that I could buy to learn everything about EZ.
Allso there seemed to be a lot of hacking of core files and if that is how EZ is expanded I really don't want to be responsible for projects made with EZ. Because then I really won't know what I'm doing, if I'm breaking anything, or reducing security.
So any thoughts are very welcome.

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Robardi56’s picture

Robardi56 commented

Hi,
i'm currently exploring CMS.

I tried EZ but had a hard time with it. I think it is a very powerfull CMS, but there is a learning curve: I got lost in their template system , and user level: I ended with a site totally messed up, impossible to manage. I had also a problem with their caching mechanism: caching is very powerfull but I wanted to disable it in order to work on my templates. For caching only, there were like 4 settings spread in an unbelievable HUGE advanced config screen. After disabling them all it would still cache my page. I guess there was another caching setting somewhere. I didn't bother anymore with it: I found EZ too complicated: you always feel like you are not in control.

Altough Drupal is still immature in some aspects, I find it much more user friendly to manage.

Brakkar

drupalec-1’s picture

drupalec-1 commented

merlin just wrote a tutorial on publishing. maybe you can use it to persuade your boss to use Drupal.
http://www.drupalecommerce.com/node/345

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Drupal ecommerce, at www.drupalecommerce.com is a new site written using language that Drupal beginners and intermediate users can understand. It has about 300 unfinished pages. Quick links to "Modules," and "Example Sites."

nathandigriz’s picture

nathandigriz commented

If I had to go with a large CMS I would go with OpenCMS(java) or Typo3. They have communities and the software works out of the box. EzPublish is OOP that no one seems to underatand, does not install with a community that does not really exist. I tried it before I went to Mambo and tried it again last week when they released a "better multi-language" version 3.8. It would not install unless I had the exact PHP release need. Trying ezpulish with MySQL 5 caused it to crash my PC.

Vidarls’s picture

Vidarls commented

This is not really about what I want to, cuase I want Drupal, which I know and Love :P
The thing is that I can't seem to find any good documentation except an expencive book on how to code for EZ. And I was wondering if anyone have experience with EZ good / bad. A quick search on google shows that EZ, much like Drupal is a love / hate thing. People either love it or they can't stand it.
-Olegu
http://www.zbz5.net/

nathandigriz’s picture

nathandigriz commented

Well stuff like this

http://ez.no/community/forum/install_configuration/install_problem_appli...

and the fact that you have to have 40mb of disk space, 64m in PHP memory in the default install makes ezPublish last on any list that I have. The requirements are those of a dedicated server and full admin control, not something I would do on a daily basis. but if this is for a company I can see why you would consider it.

But I would say that given the above Drupal is a much better choice.

Vidarls’s picture

Vidarls commented

Luckily the technical installation of the code base won't be my problem.
Customizing solutions on the other hand will be.
And I must say the more I read, the less I want to go into EZ. The EZ code is incredibly bad documented, and so large and Comprehensive that it's really a full time job to get the overview and understanding needed to start customizing things.

-Olegu
http://www.zbz5.net/

nathandigriz’s picture

nathandigriz commented

Yes the same is true for Typo3 and some others. If you are the company webmaster and are going to site and do them for a living then they work well. 40 hours a week. But if you hold another position like developer or sales then they are not for you. They just take too much time and effort to learn. Typo3 has the up on ezPublish because it has a good community and tons of docs. But when you start you will feel like you are trying to learn quantum physics without having learned to count.

It has been a few weeks now and I have only just learned how to create a 10 page site with Typo3. Make an extension? Maybe in about 8 months or a year. I made a Drupal extension after a week. I could do a mambo module after a week and a component after three months. Once you try and extend it you see why companies are moving to Drupal rather than spending time with the others.

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WebFactory Edipresse commented

Hi,

I wrote in French 2 article about the difference between eZpublish and Drupal and why eZpublish is not a good solution for me :

http://www.media-business.biz/content/ezpublish-vs-drupal-pourquoi-ezpub...

http://www.media-business.biz/content/ezpublish-lenfer-du-devoir

...

I have experienced during more than 2 years eZpublish in high volume media website for a big media company (100.000 uniques visitor / day) and what i can tell you is that eZpublish can not do the job because of big architectural lack.

We had the project to have of our big media website in eZpublish. After 2 years of difficulties to maintain it (bad performance - load time page - -kernel crash with memory - ect... ), we decide to migrate all our application to Drupal and we are now happy with them.

eZpublish is more a marketing construction than an technical one. You need to spend lot of money to maintain it because all operation take time (ezPublish is more an incomplete framework than...)

Drupal is less "marketing" but stronger in the technical part.

I will made soon on my website an article in English about eZpublish.

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codesparks commented

Very slow, at least when I tried it a couple of years ago.

pjd’s picture

pjd commented

Hi,

I just translate the job i did with EzPublish and Drupal here :
http://www.media-business.biz/content/ezpublish-cms-drupal-cms-2-years-e...

My best regards.