By Lam0r on
I know most opensource projects are non-profit but they have the right to cover up the costs somehow. I believe drupal.org should make use of its advertising potential to cover up its costs. The money thats made from selling advertising space can be used for many good causes including supporting drupal.org and some charities.
In turn the adverts can help visitors find hosting and such others.
I make money through adverts on my site which is powered by drupal and I thank drupal for helping me achieve this. I shall try to deposit what I can through paypal one day.
What are your views ?
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Some previous ideas.
Some previous ideas.
http://drupal.org/donate
http://drupal.org/node/17905
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I was aware of the donating.
I was aware of the donating. The later is what I was thinking of but I doubt thats viable due to Google's TOS agreement. Google surely would make it hard for one to do such practises.
Being a google adsense user I must admit it can bring in good revenues and in the case of drupal.org serious revenues. If drupal decides to put up adsense on the site it sure would be beneficial I believe.
Donating is little bit harder for some people since not everyone got acces to paypal and other payment options if they would exist.
Keep in mind that there is
Keep in mind that there is no non-profit or Drupal foundation. So any revenue's would really go to individual's who may/may not incur a tax liability. There would be the inevitable person griping about accountability, etc.
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asked
I asked google and it is not a problem to run multiple websites with one account, so it could work out if we just had a foundation that doestnt have to pax taxes. regarding the paypal, if you have a creditcard, you can pay as well, checkout the paypal banner currently lower right.
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No ads, animations, banners
No ads, animations, banners etc. on the site makes Drupal rock even more!
Text ads are fine
For my personal taste, I would not mind if Drupal.org displays text ads, such as those from Google Ad Sense. They are non intrusive.
This would help with the cost of running the site.
Of course, the lack of a non-profit organization behind Drupal is the main hinderance at present. Once this is resolved, then I do not mind text ads.
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Keep it pure
I would not like to see ads on Drupal.org. For me, it would take away from the purity of the project. Besides, society is already oversaturated with advertising's jabberwocky. People are getting bombarded with so much b*llsh*t these days, they can't even think straight. Let's not contribute to the problem.
grievance
I can understand your grievance but all this would be beneficial to drupal. The site would earn mor eincome through the adds then the donations
The money could aid for better drupal awareness thus improving the already fast growing community. Development bounties could be awarded too as described in here http://drupal.org/donate
I dont think any taxes need to be paid. Its only for US publishers of the adsense program. If Dries (drupal founder) sets up a charity no taxes need to be paid I think. Google recently started to offer electronic transfer of the money made in the adsense program.
I'd prefer Drupal to find other avenues for funding
I understand the goal is to help Drupal find funding. I'm all for that. But I think other ways should be explored first. I'd prefer to see advertising used as a very last resort. So far, the project has managed to do very well without it.
I'd be willing to bet there are many more people out there like me who view the lack of advertising on this site as a positive political statement and who really appreciate its abscense.
Ads for anonymous users only
I'm not saying we are going to use ads (maybe at some point we will) but I wanted to point out that we can make it so that ads are only visible for anonymous users. Imagine that authenticated users would not see ads, or could choose to disable them.
+1 to anonymous ads
I was just about to post a comment with this exact suggestion... but you beat me to it, Dries! I agree, if drupal.org does ever have ads (and personally I'd rather it keep having none), then those ads should be in a block that can be turned off, much like the PayPal donation block can currently be disabled in a user's profile.
But would Google allow this setup? We'd have to first check with Google whether they minded the fact that registered users could disable the ads.
Jeremy Epstein - GreenAsh
I could live with that
Definitely a good idea.
I would have no problem with
I would have no problem with a animated / colored ad right below an article (but not on the front page) and a text-only ad on the top /right -- with all of this being disabled by being a registered user.
The thing is, though, is to keep the ads related to what you work with.
For example, goto slashdot.org.
Most of the ads are related to the articles they discuss.
Here is the way I look at it on my website and other's:
I have a right to put whatever i want on my web page. They have a right not to view it.While my website is a hobby (so I expect to have to *pay* for it) it would be cool/nice if I broke even.
Allot of people (like myself) use adblocker in conjuction with scripts to block ads. I haven't seen a single add for a few months (except for adsense from google, which I unblocked on purpose).
So.. yeah.. take that with a grain of salt. :)
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lost donations
I would like to see a more universally accepted payment processor - other than PayPal. PayPal does not accept payments/donations from many countries.
People want to donate !
http://01wholesale.com - http://businessletters.com - http://01businesses.com
I dislike PayPal
I dislike PayPal, too, and I would welcome an alternative such as MoneyBookers.com.
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yes to ads
I have no problems with ads as long as they are not too many and do not distract my attention (this means no flash or heavily-animated ads). I often click on ads, either because they attract my interest or just to surf.
If you run ads on drupal.org it is important to enable feedback from visitors and adjust your ads or layout accordingly. This is what I do on my site, for example, I have a feedback poll where visitors can tell me their opinion on the ads I run and their layout. If I get many negative comments about a particular ad or a layout, I consider changes.
I believe that it is also possible to offer ad-free downloadable files of your most important content (such as the Drupal Handbook) without losing ad revenue, based on the experience of my site: Every article on my site has some ads in it, but at the same time I offer for download PDF, HTML and TXT versions of the article without ads, and people continue clicking on the website's ads because they are highly relevant.
This is the key to ad success: Targeting, feedback, cooperativeness. If somebody doesn't want to see ads, that's fine, cooperate with anti-ad visitors by allowing registered users to switch off ad blocks or by offering ad-free downloadable files. Don't force visitors to see ads, if they hate advertising they won't click or buy either. You should also avoid popup or transition ads.
If possible, ads should be chosen on a case-by-case basis so that you can achieve better targeting. An article about biology should some biology-related ads, for example. General untargeted ads are fine too, if you believe that the general audience of your site will be interested in them, but you must always serve some targeted ads.
You can also consider donating some of your ad-space to charities and other organisations or projects (even opensource projects) that you wish to promote. For example in my site I run banners raising public awareness about the dangers of software patents in Europe.
If the ads are well-integrated with the web content, they become a tool for people to surf and find new interesting sites and products, and if you avoid animation the ads won't be annoying.
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+1 for ads(ense)
I think Drupal should throw some small Google AdSense on the site. Letting it be disabled for reg users is a good idea. I love Drupal and think everyone behind it should be compensated at least a little bit as people don't use PayPal donations as much as they should.
Module
The Adsense Module does just that: allows a role to be exempt from ads (e.g. authenticated users).
I am for putting text only unintrusive ads on Drupal.org to assist financially with costs. However, the issue is that there is no Drupal Foundation non-profit so far.
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OR because of where they
OR because of where they live, some people can't use it... like me