imagefield has a warning that image attachments are not saved until posting. It is desired that this warning be clear to people who are not familiar with common Internet terminology (see http://drupal.org/node/251416). For Drupal 6 it was very reasonably suggested that this warning be different than in Drupal 5 to be consistent with other Drupal 6 wording pertaining to node creation.

However, after much consideration, my opinion is a wording similar to Drupal 5's would be best:
Images are not saved until the form is submitted.

A more node-oriented warning would be
Images are not saved until the CONTENT_TYPE_HERE is saved.
But this is confusing if the content type has "Images", "Photos", etc. in its name. e.g.,
Images are not saved until the Images are saved.
So I think this one should be avoided.

The "Submit" button has been replaced by "Save" in Drupal 6 on the node-creation page, but I think the terms "form" and "submit" are intuitive and will make sense to the uninitiated. Most people will recognize what they are dealing with is a form, and the final thing you do with any form, paper or electronic, is submit it. "form" and "submit" are also correct underlying technical terms.

Some other alternatives considered:

  1. Images are not saved until this content is saved. <-- "content" is Drupal jargon
  2. Images are not saved until you click Save. <-- This may be valid, but (1) assumes the Save button is not renamed and (2) may cause the user to search around the image field for a Save button.
  3. Images are not stored until... <-- not clear what is meant by stored
  4. Images are not kept until... <-- doesn't seem as clear as saved
  5. Uploads are not saved until Images are saved. <-- still not clear

Comments

jpetso’s picture

jpetso commented

It's a good initiative, but why do you open a new issue instead of following up on the existing one? Please transfer the contents to the original issue and close this one as duplicate - it's not necessary to have two different issues that tackle the same problem.

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threexk commented

dopry asked me to open a new issue specifically for D6 in http://drupal.org/node/251416. I think the rationale may be that that issue refers specifically to the D5 version.

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dopry commented

@jpetso, I asked for this to be a seperate issue...I really hate reopening issues for ports after the original issue is fixed... everything should be it's own new issue in my book, and that is how I'm going to encourage my issue queue to be used.

threexk, thanks!

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jpetso commented

Ah, ok, sorry. Please pretend I never posted the above comment :-S

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quicksketch
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Status: Active » Postponed (maintainer needs more info)

The trouble with the Drupal 6 version is that there isn't any place to put the suggested help text. In D5 we had our own fieldset, but due to CCK handling multivalues and soon to handle grouping of separate fields, there's no place to put the text 'Images are not saved until the form is submitted.'

Any suggestions here would be welcome, I personally don't find this to be as big a problem as it was in D5, especially since this text isn't entirely true any more. Images actually are saved to their final location immediately upon upload. They're not yet marked as "permanent", but they're definitely uploaded. As for telling the user their changes aren't permanent until saving, isn't that the way the rest of the node form works? With AHAH much more common now thanks to the CCK "more" button, it doesn't seem like FileField should be re-iterating that changes aren't saved until you click "Save".

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quicksketch
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Status: Postponed (maintainer needs more info) » Closed (fixed)

I'm closing this issue as I don't think it's necessary and I'm not sure how it would be implemented if it were. Please reopen if desired and we can discuss it further.