By boris mann on

I was talking with some of the guys from the Jabber community today. They mentioned that they were doing searches for "PHP CMS" in Google, and not finding Drupal. Actually, it's on the bottom of the 3rd page of results.

So, if anyone is interested in playing along, just link to the front page of Drupal.org with the phrase "PHP CMS". That is, a link like this: PHP CMS. I made a post about this on my own site. Leave a link in the comments to your post.

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heine’s picture

heine commented

Drupal & Theme Sinorca. Simply added php cms...

Thox’s picture

Thox commented

Currently ranked 26th, I'm sure we can raise this a lot if we just get a few extra links in.

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heine commented

When you search google (with php cms) you get as the first result + excerpt:

OpenSourceCMS - Home
To give you the opportunity to "try out" some of the best php/mysql based free and ... Drupal is an open source CMS with an active and dynamic community. ...

In a way Drupal is in the top spot.

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joel_guesclin commented

...so that every Drupal page contains "php cms" in the meta content keywords?

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chx commented

google does not xare about those...
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venkat-rk commented

So, is the module useless or is it for other search engines that take keywords into account? I honestly thought the module would help me.

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boris mann commented

Search engines still look at metadata, it just isn't used for determining ranking. Also, metadata is what search engines use to display a description underneath links. If you have no metadata, then the first bit of HTML is used, which is often just navigation links.

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venkat-rk commented

Thanks for the explanation, Boris.

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bwynants commented

very small module: http://www.goju-andy.be/metadata.zip

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boris mann commented

In 2 days, Drupal has risen to be the #5 hit for "PHP CMS". My post is the #1 hit for "PHP CMS Postgresql" (time to do more Postgresql work!). Thanks to everyone that linked...

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Thox commented

I think it's funny that it's mostly this node which is giving it such a high rank. Maybe we should mention PHP CMS a little more?

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robertdouglass commented

If people start to think that we're only there because of Googlebombing, instead of the actual quality of our software. Well, at least they found us. That's better than what happened for the Jabber folks who had never heard of Drupal despite having searched for a PHP/PostgreSQL CMS.

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robertdouglass commented

Since Drupal is the best cms that runs on PHP and MySQL, we should make this fact known too.

<a href="http://www.drupal.org" title="Drupal is the Best CMS for PHP and MySQL">Drupal is the best cms that runs on PHP and MySQL</a>

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robertdouglass commented

This discussion made me realize that the taxonomy term links we generate are inadequate. They need title attributes and this should be based on the description that was given to the term when it is created. I rolled a patch that does just that, please review.

http://drupal.org/node/35178

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robertdouglass commented

Make sure that each of you goes over to Freshmeat.net, gets an account, votes for Drupal, and adds a comment describing what you like about the system. It is also another chance to use the keywords PHP, CMS, MySQL, and PostgreSQL.

http://freshmeat.net/projects/drupal/

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robertdouglass commented

Talk about keyword dillution!

We also need to think about the fact that Drupal is a great PHP CMS for PgSQL.

<a href="http://www.drupal.org" title="Drupal is a great PHP CMS for PgSQL">Drupal is a great PHP CMS for PgSQL</a>

- Robert Douglass

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peterx commented

According to Google, if we really want Drupal to rank high in search results, add the following links.

  1. Hurricane Wilma cannot damage a Drupal Web site.
  2. Madonna would love a sexy Drupal Web site.
  3. The national hurricane center could communicate better with a Drupal Web site.
  4. NOAA is a four letter acronym and Drupal is a fantastic content management system.
  5. Britney Spears baby looks better on a Drupal Web site.
  6. More men would like Jennifer Aniston if her Web site was powered by Drupal.
  7. The powerball of content management systems is Drupal.
  8. Cancun Web site administrators are blown away by Drupal.
  9. Drupal gives you more free time to play Quake 4.
  10. Batman Begins is the best Batman movie just as Drupal is the best content management system.
  11. When you use Drupal, you can have your Web site finished before the next world series.
  12. Even the actors in Doom could use a Drupal Web site.
  13. You do not have to saw your own leg off to get a Drupal Web site working.
  14. Pumpkin carving patterns fit better on a Drupal Web site.
  15. Charlize Theron looks better than my Drupal Web site.

Here are some other suggestions based on analysing my email.

http://petermoulding.com/technology/content_management_systems/drupal/

petermoulding.com/web_architect

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peterx commented

I just noticed Google has search engine request ranks for other countries. Here are links to help Drupal rank better in Australia.

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http://petermoulding.com/technology/content_management_systems/drupal/

petermoulding.com/web_architect

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robertdouglass commented

- Robert Douglass

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William Mead commented

...and sad at the same time

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robertdouglass commented

- Robert Douglass

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Thox commented

I think it's important to note that the order of words has a big effect on the search results:

* php cms mysql - 3rd
* mysql php cms - 3rd
* cms mysql php - 7th
* cms php mysql - 10th
* php mysql cms - 13th

* php cms - 5th
* cms php - 9th

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robertdouglass commented

* php cms mysql - 3rd
* mysql php cms - 3rd
* cms mysql php - 7th
* cms php mysql - 10th
* php mysql cms - 13th

* php cms - 5th
* cms php - 9th

- Robert Douglass

Tell technorati as well:
php cms mysql
drupal

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bertboerland commented

just a couple of extra links, and we can get the number 1 postion. now we are ranked two.
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simplulo commented

Except that you guys left this topic up, so that anyone who googles "best cms" comes here and finds out that you manipulated the results. This is not going to help me make the case in my CMS X vs. CMS Y discussions. Whatever happened to http://www.opensourcecms.com? :(

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boris mann commented

It shows that Drupal is really well optimized to rank highly in Google. That should count for something...