How to translate menu items and so on?

goye2cz - January 20, 2009 - 09:23

I've been searching all morning and can't find any help on drupal.org... at least nothing I've been able to use.

I'm creating a site that needs to provide both Czech and English content, menus, categories, file downloads... I have the localization module on and I'm able to make translations of content but the menu isn't happening. I would like to know how to default globally to a certain language for all users and hopefully if the other language is selected, that will be remembered for at least that one visit to the website for the user. The langauge selection should switch the menu items as well, and categories should appear in the selected language. I'm pretty sure I had this working in a test site a couple of months ago but for the life of me I can't remember how I did it. Can this be done with core modules? If possible, I'd like to have the language selection done by clicking cute little flags too.

Something I ran into while translating a page was that when creating the translation, TinyMCE wasn't there for formatting. Any help with that? I really need this whole process to be as simple as possible because I am creating this site for others to contribute and translate content and they will have a limited ability to work with all the gadgetry.

I'm very willing to read piles of documentation to accomplish this but I've searched so long and it's running me in circles. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks in advance.

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Try this

ludo1960 - January 20, 2009 - 09:26

Have you looked at http://drupal.org/project/menutranslation

Edit: and this http://drupal.org/project/stringoverrides

Did that....

ludo1960 - January 20, 2009 - 10:32

Did that help? Did you get it working?

Something like that

goye2cz - January 20, 2009 - 12:52

That requires the i18n module which i downloaded, which requires 2 other modules. I didn't get past trying to get Xajax because I couldn't figure out how to find it. Any help with that?

?

ludo1960 - January 20, 2009 - 12:55

What requires the i18 module?

This

goye2cz - January 20, 2009 - 15:01

The module you provide a link to: http://drupal.org/project/menutranslation

Is this the link you are looking for

ludo1960 - January 20, 2009 - 15:13

I think this is the link you require

http://drupal.org/project/vitzo_xajax

Edit: I wish the i18n folk would provide the links for required modules..(moan :-))

http://drupal.org/project/ajax use this module instead

Did you...

ludo1960 - January 21, 2009 - 14:43

Just curious, did you get it all to work?

I'll try

goye2cz - January 29, 2009 - 14:55

Hi,

thanks. I"m going to start trying again. I took a break from it for a while because I was in bad need of a fresh perspective. I'll let you know how it goes.

once again

goye2cz - January 30, 2009 - 14:02

I've taken another look at it and followed the link you gave. I installed the ajax module but i guess the translator one insists on having xajax... it also needs something called powersql. Can't find that either. Needing translations and menus as well seems like such a basic thing... This is ending up being such a pain. I really don't understand why.

How hard is this going to be?

goye2cz - February 2, 2009 - 10:28

Hi,

thanks for your help so far. I'm not getting anywhere fast though. I think I need to start over again, this site is so full of modules now that people have told me I need and I've been unable to get good results with them. I don't know php. I understand the basic theory of how all this works but when I need to add a module and something doesn't go right, I'm just stuck. Surely there are people out there running simple multilingual sites with Drupal. All I need is Czech and English, and that only for the frontend. I can create translations of text with the translatte content module with absolutely no problem, but afaik, with that method the menu I've created doesn't change when I view the other language.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong? This seems harder than it should be.

I'm about to make a multisite configuration I think. One Czech and one English. For now I can't see a better way to make this happen. It would be a shame to go that route because Drupal really should have the capability to handle this... Maybe I've just missed it. Help please?

answering my own question

goye2cz - February 2, 2009 - 12:59

It seems I do the same searches every day and yet come up with different results every time. Sometimes I get lucky. I can't say yet whether I've been lucky or not, but I think this may well be some of the best info I've found on the subject:

http://www.slideshare.net/gabor.hojtsy/multilingual-drupal-presentation-...

He mentions things that you mentioned as well. :)

I'm surprised

ludo1960 - February 2, 2009 - 13:43

I also can't believe it's so difficult, I'm setting up a home network, When i get it finished I want to give this a go.

You'll never believe

goye2cz - February 3, 2009 - 08:59

There is just so much information out there and much of it is outdated. It's hard to sort through. You will never believe me, but I finally found what I've been reading about and yes, it took this long to find it.

http://drupal.org/project/i18n

I feel like a moron for having taken so long but, I think this is what I've been needing. I'm learning to use it now. It seems to give me the flexibility I need in managing translations.

I haven't fiddled with trying to get the backend to into another language, it wasn't necessary for me. Some of the translating I think requires that I have that. I'm finding that I have to learn how to get Czech in there. Still at a bit of a loss as to how to translate things like the contact form, but I'll get there.

Yehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

ludo1960 - February 3, 2009 - 12:59

Well done congrats, I know what you mean about the outdated and confusing info out there!

Hi, I am also trying to

sidal1 - March 16, 2009 - 23:00

Hi,

I am also trying to translate my menu items. I am checking out the project page for menutranslation module, but there is no release for 6.x. Is there a way to do this with 6.x?

Thanks!

Sidal

Translating menus

JeniferTucker - March 30, 2009 - 20:49

I'm also having a similar problem. I too downloaded the menutranslation which gives a nice user-friendly aproach to .... and feel I am also chasing my tail a little.

The menu items themselves switch OK, but the menu itself remains aloof !!!!

Example:
Looking at site in English

About us
* Who we are
* How to find us

Switching to Spanish I get this

About us < trying to get "Sobre nosotros" displayed >
* Quienes somos
* Cómo llegar

I added the Spanish translation for the menu (About us) in the menu translation table as well as searching in the translation interface and adding the translation there. Still nothing.

I'll go and download Stringoverrides, but I would have thought this would all have been available under l18n and locale modules.

If anyone has a solution to this, would be glad to hear from you as at a loss where to go next.

JLT

How I do it...

goye2cz - April 7, 2009 - 08:06

I'm still a noob to this but maybe it will help.

I have a menu that does something like this:

-English-

School of Worship and Leadership
* Course Calendar
* Worship & Leadership Tracks
* For More Info

I simply created a translation of each node and in that it gave me the option of translating the title and menu item as well. For the child menu items, I did have to adjust their hierarchy and weight. It behaves well. This way creates the menu items automatically. If you've gone in and created the menu items manually, you will have to make sure that you create another menu item for the Spanish and that both are set to only appear under their respective languages.

Someone correct me if I've described something wrong!