Add Estonian language to l.d.o

Do you know people who contribute to that server and would jump on contributing here? I'd love to get the language list cleaned out on drupaler.ru too, so we can point people to the official language list.

I've contacted the maintainer of drupaler.ru to comment on this issue too.

nonsie The Official Estonian translation group is working on the site (http://drupaler.ru) with 2007-nov-29. In this group has actively worked 13 people. Be careful ;).
Gábor Hojtsy I can stop the work of this group at drupaler.ru, if it is convenient to all participants.
How to save the work of these people and move it to localize.drupal.org?

@pvasili: I think nonsie has some good points showing your setup is not where the action happens. With due respect to those, who found and contributed to your server, we should however import that data. While @nonsie might not care, those who's work would be trashed would probably care. You can directly export the translations from the server as .po files, which can then be imported on localize.drupal.org. That would not help that about 2000 suggestions which are also there given #572676: Export suggestions in .po files is unresolved so far with the expectation of cooperating existing teams.

@Gábor Hojtsy - I'm very worried about the issue of transfer of accumulated data to localize.drupal.org.
At http://drupaler.ru worked a few people (the ET group was created at their request), and I wish that this work has been preserved for all people at drupal.org

I can send you a dump tables l10n_community_string & l10n_community_translation. (I do not know a convenient way to make 4100 PO files off all modules :) )

I think it's best to start from scratch in this situation - reviewing old stuff from two sources is as time-consuming as creating a brand new translation.

@tormi: have you ever done a translation? Drupal core has now 3500 strings, that's a _lot_ of work.

If pvasili can confirm that the translations from drupaler.ru were added to the translation here at drupal.org?

@killes yes, I have (you can see my translations used at mesindus.ee for example). I'm trying to find a neutral way how to get the Estonian translation done. So far there are two half-done translations you can't use due to lack of both readiness and quality.

The fact that the drupaler.ru translations were synced to drupal.org almost a year ago only helps, if the drupaler.ru Estonian team was inactive for this period. If substantial work was done, we'd loose that again. The Ukrainian team devised an interim method to generate .po files from CSV database dumps (see http://drupal.org/node/577830), so it might be useful to contact them for help so you can migrate all this data to localize.drupal.org and continue translating here.

There is not yet an implementation to export suggestions due to how they are not compatible with our transport format. See #572676: Export suggestions in .po files. So either temporary hacks are needed like the Ukranian method, or you need to wait on #572676: Export suggestions in .po files (or help implement it).

- Estonian Drupal community is very much in grinding halt because the lack of the official Estonian translation download (in somewhat decent quality). The is no way to evangelize Drupal around here without ability people to build sites to local market in local language. We need it fast.

- I can not the follow complex story behind historical two versions of the translation. It is not that relevant for most people. All they want is: an official translation download in whatever quality (as long it is clearly said what is the completion ration of the translation release and what is the process to improve it)

- Nonsie's plan makes sense (do I follow it correctly: she brings old translations from http://localize.theoriginalnetbaby.com to http://localize.drupal.org/ ?). We can sort out the official translation caretaker amongst the community when she decides to resign.

- are there any other roadblocks? How can I help?

I propose we proceed with creation of the group and make kika the initial maintainer. They can then sort out things among themselves.

+1

Why is everyone ignoring the outstanding thousand of suggestions on drupaler.ru? Also, from @nonsie's comments, it seems like she is still working on approving/declining those suggestions to prepare for the migration.

Lucky neighbours, they don't have to worry about legacy problems and can actually start translating ..

We are somewhat in a same situation as the goat who stands between two haystacks and can't decide which one is better. The truth is that the best is not the moulded hay but a fresh grass beneath its legs ;)

AFAIK Nonsie is almost-ready to push the http://localize.theoriginalnetbaby.com changes over to l.d.o. The community seems to have agreed to reject drupaler.ru work according to g.d.o/estonia poll. We are ready to move on and build on nonsie work.

Ok, if you decide to reject the drupaler.ru translation, I cannot do anything about it. This debate already postponed decision for months.

Created team at http://localize.drupal.org/languages/et

Please expect that there might be bumps in the service. You are among the beta-tester of this live instance. Thanks for helping out and please report issues as you find them! Your team members can now join and help import existing translations and work on more translations.

Also note that I've set this up so that it uses a controlled model (that group admins moderate translations). If you'd rather work in an open model (that everyone can directly submit translations), that is up to you and you can edit your group node to reconfigure anytime.

Consequently, I've also removed the listing of the existing drupaler.ru server at http://drupal.org/project/l10n_server.

Welcome on board!

Cool! Thanks, Nonsie and Gábor!