Hi,

I'm looking for a possibility to move the "add comment" link from $links into the node's teaser. In D5 I did this with the Theme Settings API resp. the Theme Settings module, which never was fully ported to D6.

Since currently seems to be no straight-forward way in D6 to allow users to comment on nodes, I'm posting this feature request.

Also, have you ever considered to merge ed_readmore with themesetting/themesettingsapi (partial similar/duplicate functionality)?

Thanks & greetings, -asb

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todd nienkerk commented
Status: Active » Closed (won't fix)

asb: Thanks for the suggestion. The scope of the Read More Link module is intended to be rather small. A module that controls more than one of the $links would quickly become a module that controls all of the $links, which turns it into something else entirely. (As the issue queue for the Read More Link module may suggest, inserting a link into teaser text can be complicated, so there's already plenty for this module to do.)

I'm not familiar with Themes Settings API, so I haven't considered merging the two. I may look into that module when I have some time.

I'm puzzled by this comment:

Since currently seems to be no straight-forward way in D6 to allow users to comment on nodes, I'm posting this feature request.

How is commenting not straightforward? You can either (1) have a link to a separate commenting page or (2) place the commenting form below each node. It's a core feature and customizable per content type. I don't understand how this could be made easier.

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asb commented

Thanks for your fast reply. Limiting the scope of the 'Read More Link' module is fine with me, of course; I was simply looking for a replacement for the 'Theme Settings API' resp. 'Theme Settings' modules on D6 to allow Teasers like this:

(Teaser Text...)</p>
<p>Post new comment | Read more ›</p>
(End of teaser)

Maybe someone else has solved this already in D6 somewhere else.

> How is commenting not straightforward? You can either (1) have a link to a separate commenting page [...]. It's a core feature and customizable per content type. I don't understand how this could be made easier.

Well, to be honest I'm not sure what happened with $links in D6 at all. In D5 I was used to be able to use an area like

    <?php if ($links): ?>
    <div class="links">
      <?php print $links; ?>
    </div>
    <?php endif; ?>

to display lots of useful stuff, based on access permissions and context (e.g. node access statistics, "report as spam" link from mollom, edit/delete quick links for editors and so on). I'm getting the feeling that nothing of this works anymore in D6, including having the link to a separate commenting page you mentioned above. The only thing I'm seeing in the (former) links section of a node are duplicates of the node's tags (which are already printed with $terms in node.tpl.php), but I can't enable a link to the commenting form, I can't display node access statistics etc.

First I thought this was theme related, but I'm getting this behaviour on unaltered core themes like Garland as well as on customized Zen- or Fusion sub themes or other (unaltered) contributed themes. Secondly I though this had to do with the changed access permission set from ./admin/user/permissions, but "display access counter" is checked for the proper user roles, and I'm getting those links not even as user #1. Nuff said, I did only a couple of D6 sites yet and started migrating my D5 sites only a couple of days ago, so hopefully I'll find a solution for this strangeness somewhere ;)

However, before this issue drifts away completely off topic: Similar to the "read more" link in the "links" section (in D5) I experienced that users didn't recognize the "post comment" link in the "links" section (in D5) clearly enough; that's why I put them in the teaser with the 'Theme Settings API' resp. 'Theme Settings' modules. This is a usability issue like having to click on the node title to get from a teaser to a full node view - it's far from intuitive, and I wish stuff like this would be made more understandable for non-technical users outside of the Drupal world. That was also one of the motivations for creating a "Read More Link" module, wasn't it?

Greetings, -asb

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todd nienkerk commented

asb: I'm sorry to hear you're having problems with the $links in D6. I don't know what could be causing that, as it changed very little from D5. It's always worked fine for me. Perhaps you have a custom module that's messing with them via a hook_link_alter()?

I agree that sometimes the $links can be hard to see, and this was indeed one of the reasons for the Read More Link module in the first place. You can fix this in the theme layer, though, by splitting $links into two link arrays and outputting one in the node and the other in the "usual" place. Possibilities abound!

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asb commented

> I don't know what could be causing that, as it changed very little from D5. It's always worked fine for me.

Thats very strange, indeed. I'm currently having seven migrated D4/D5 sites and three original D6 sites with very different modules and themes in use, and I'm seeing those links nowhere. This also happens with a vanilla D6 setup without any contributed modules and Garland. Strangs, very, very strange.

Greetings, -asb