By robertdouglass on

Packt Publishing has announced the winners of their 2006 Open Source CMS Award, and Drupal has been awarded second place. The award comes with a cash prize of $3,000. The Joomla! project took first place, with Plone coming in third.

When the voting ended, Joomla! and Drupal were in a tie. The rules of the competition mandated that a further judge be brought in to cast the tie-breaking vote.

Congratulations go out to all three projects. The prize is an indication of excellence in software and fantastic community. Many thanks to Packt Publishing for generously supporting open source software.

This prize is not the only support that Drupal gets from Packt. Drupal also benefits from their Open Source Project Royalty Scheme because of David Mercer's Drupal book. This is support for which we are very grateful.

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robertdouglass commented

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dries commented

Thanks a lot to Packt, and congratulations to Joomla! and Plone. Well done everyone!

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Geotechy commented

Yeah, Drupal and Joomla are very difficult choices to select one out of the two. They have tie, I guess not because they are similar (50/50), but because they provide two equally complement tastes. Tie means its again a hard job to the judges. Drupal deserves salute. Drupal's module concept will eventually lead the world of CMS. Drupal should focus more on Automated installation (automated installation weighs more to novice users), Forum, The login bug: access denied issue that still lingers around me, photo gallery: gallery2, WISIWYG Type text editors, graphical administrator's panel like in Joomla. Modular installation in Drupal is far more smooth compared to Joomla. If these components are addressed well, Drupal can win the race. Anyway, slow and steady wins the race is still true. Drupal and Joomla are still my favorite CMS. Joomla is my favorite immediate solution, and Drupal CMS is my lasting project.

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drupalnesia commented

Ahh... you announce the:
1. WYSIWYG Editor: forgot this since Drupal won't support in short time, no roadmap for this feature.
2. "Modular installation in Drupal is far more smooth compared to Joomla"
If you mean: built in module installation then since when Drupal supports module installation? Drupal need FTP while Joomla has built in one. Even on 5.0 Beta 1 still have no module installation feature. Maybe, will be on 5.0 Beta2.

But, I like to say "congratulation to Drupal team", in my mind, Drupal is the winner but this "powerfull but not simple to administer, manage and training" is the real Drupal problem. Drupal is the best CMS, only hard to learn compare to Joomla. If Drupal can make things easier than next year will be #1.

Like others say, fit on #2 place will give Drupaller more motivation, idea and spirit to make Drupal better and better. God bless Drupaller.

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willi.firulais commented


... Drupal need FTP while Joomla has built in one.

That is the reason why I choose drupal - because you can use it with shared servers without problem.

Congratulation!!!

... and please stay supporting shared servers (because a lot of the other big don't work well within such environment) and servers where you have limited rights (e.g simple corn simulation, etc.).

willi

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franckspener commented

Agreed, Joomla really is great, don't want to say anything bad about drupal
or plone but Joomla was my favourite to get the first prize.

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alexis commented

Yes, all the participants in the contest should be happy knowing so many persons use and love open source content management systems.

Congratulations Drupal!

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mki commented

The second place is the best: it's a recognized fact, that Drupal have splendid features but we have motivation for make Drupal even better at the same time. Congratulations, wishing you every success.

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robertdouglass commented

Even if the Joomla! project is less than a year old, its code base and reputation come from the long-established Mambo project. They have a significantly larger install base and community than Drupal. For us to tie them in a vote where the communities could participate is an enormous achievement for Drupal.

But everything else aside, I think that the competition was significant because of all the publicity it brought to open source. This publicity helps our projects recruit new members and continue to grow. It is specifically for that reason that I always post these stories to Digg. It is great PR.

- Robert Douglass

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NaX commented

I agree with you completely. Just take a look at google trends and you can see were Joomla's user base comes from.

http://google.com/trends?q=drupal%2C+joomla%2C+mambo&ctab=0&geo=all&date...

I think with 5.0 things will change. Having a web based installer will make a big difference to newbie's, and so drupal's install base will also grow. Just this years growth alone as been very significant.

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yaph commented

I agree that the web based installer, the usability improvements and also the new default theme will attract more non-developer users. The new developer features will lead to more and better extensions. The future looks very good for Drupal. Next time Drupal will make the first place.

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dikini commented

I really like the judges' comments. A tie in from the judges' vote is good. To 5 from ~16000, even better. How drupal it can become still better?

Power? "Enterprise" features? Scalability? ....

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rszrama commented

Honestly, it seems like the compliments to Drupal were more significant than the compliments to Joomla!... "Seems like it would scale well..." hehe

Drupal seems like it might just usher in world peace through online communities. ^_^

Joking aside, congrats to Drupal! Wish I could've seen the vote breakdown, especially for MySQL's. : P

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Amarnath-1 commented

Congratulations to Drupal team and Drupal users!

Drupal is the best.

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Gman commented

Dugg for good measure. For me the extensibility and scalability is what drew me to Drupal, and with the new 5.0 features coming along, I think the hurdle of complexity will come way down.

Here is a copy of my personal Drupal Article concerning this.

The winner of the Packt Open Source Content Management System for 2006 has been announced, with Drupal coming in second place. Joomla!, was the overall winner. Even though Joomla has only been officially released for a year, compared to Drupal which has been out for 6 years, its user base has moved to Joomla from its predecessor, Mambo.

As noted in the Drupal community, this is great publicity for all open source projects, with Drupal scoring a moral victory in the voting. Technically there was a tie between Drupal and Joomla, with a recruited fourth judge deciding the winner. Since the users of the CMSs were able to vote, that the smaller, and obviously more energized and committed user base of Drupal, was able to stand firm against a large Joomla following.

The Drupal following of users and developers can be characterized as more committed due to the longer learning curve which seems to garner more loyalty from those you make the hurdle of learning the ins and outs of the system. Drupal's strengths in extensibility and scalability, along with some complexity, can be a hindrance for the casual blogger to get past. This was noted when Drupal was choosen as the CMS for IBM development.

But most of these worries will be a thing of the past when Drupal 5.0 is released (in beta testing now). It has a re-organized administration panel, a browser based installation system, and a sleek new defualt theme. To reduce the learning curve, Drupal 5.0 also can be distributed in preconfigured installations, or recipes. The ability to package third party modules, along with the core, hooked into the installation system will make numerous 'out of the box' configurations possible. So a developer could make a blogger distributions, media hosting distributions, collabrative writing distributions and maybe even one for classroom education.

A second place finish may look good for the trophy mantle this year, but with Drupal 5.0 and beyond it seems that a 1st place prize for years to come may be on order.

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slimandslam commented

To reduce the learning curve, Drupal 5.0 also can be distributed in preconfigured installations, or recipes. The ability to package third party modules, along with the core, hooked into the installation system will make numerous 'out of the box' configurations possible. So a developer could make a blogger distributions, media hosting distributions, collabrative writing distributions and maybe even one for classroom education.

This will be huge for Drupal as there are a lot of developers who want "pre-configured" sites. Arguably, it was this fact alone that made the various nukes (postnuke, php-nuke, etc) so popular.

J

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manuman commented

It certainly was a close race and could easily have gone Drupals way. Great to see the outstanding support OS is getting these days. Projects such as Drupal, Plone and Joomla! demostrate what can be achieved with the good will of great communities.

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Walt Esquivel commented

It's an honor for the Drupal community to have placed so well in the competition.

Great job!

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mauriziopinotti commented

happy to come before Plone!!!!!!! number one!!!! (at least, morally :D )

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Taran commented

I still don't see why Joomla won. Must have been a coin toss. :-)

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trantt commented

I don't know anything about joomla but I know one thing for sure, they have a lot more availabled themes than we do

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Ryanbach commented

I am glad I voted. Good job, Drupal is only going to get better though... ;)

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bpocanada commented

Excellent result for an excellent CMS. Drupal has a significant developer community interest over Joomla. With subsequent releases it is just going to get better and better.

We have used both Drupal and Joomla both in our organization, my developers loved Drupal more than Joomla. Its Architecture and code is rock solid. It definitely needs improvement in installation, documentation, having better themes/presentation. Everything else is in place and performance is awesome. If these things are changed in Drupal over time( and I know the community is working agressively to make it happen), it would have made a significant difference.

What reflects Drupal's superiority is that even when Joomla has more installations, more users, more google searches - Drupal and Joomla were tied!!!!!!! Drupal Community just loves Drupal.

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odysseus-1 commented

Lets do the maths, if we assume the vote tied at 2-2, and that 1 vote for Joomla came from the popular vote given their far larger install base, that means 2 of 3 initial judges preferred Drupal :-) I'd call that a moral victory. Well done guys!

John.

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itsp commented

Drupal having a tie with Joomla makes it the winner. It is a known fact that Joomla has a larger following compared to Drupal. But doing some simple maths, there is a larger percentage of Drupal users who voted compared to Joomla.

This means that Drupal is the winner on users' loyalty. More Drupal users took time out to support their CMS than Joomla. Drupal is still the best!

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gopher commented

The public voting was but one factor that was taken into consideration for the award. So if anything Joomla probably got more public votes and Drupal more judge votes to make the tie.

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DL commented

Two thumbs-up for Drupal and the whole Drupal community. I saw the article from Packt describing the different cms, but I would like to highlight what the judges said about the Drupal community: has an active and friendly community.

I agree 1000%! More power to the Drupal community!

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LorenzoG commented

I'm a Joomla! user and I want to congratulate the Drupal community for the honourable 2nd place. As it has been stated, it was tought between Joomla! and Drupal.

I'm thrilled and convinced that we are going to see more award fights between Joomla! and Drupal in the future, when we both have our Joomla! 1.5 and Drupal 5.0 released.

Again, congratulations! :)
Lorenzo

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rport commented

Recently Packt Publishing announced the 2006 Open Source CMS Award. When the voting ended, Joomla! and Drupal were in a tie. The rules of the competition mandated that a further judge be brought in to cast the tie-breaking vote. After the deciding vote was cast, Joomla! came out on top, followed in second place by Drupal.

The final result and prizes were as follows:

  1. Joomla!- $5,000
  2. Drupal - $3,000
  3. Plone - $2,000

All of this got me thinking, that after votes by judges from The Open Source Collective, MySQL, the Eclipse Foundation, and 16,000 users on www.PacktPub.com how could there be a tie?

So here's how the voting worked;

  1. Only one nomination per person will be counted
  2. The top three (nominees) will be voted for by a panel of three judges. A final fourth vote will come from the results of a public vote on www.PacktPub.com.

Votes by the judges and the collective public vote were then cast as follows;

... in deciding the final positions judges were asked to give their top three, with their first choice receiving 3 points, second receiving two points and third place one point.

So congratulations Joomla! well done!

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alexis commented

And then the judges selected from those?

It would be nice knowing the numbers from the 16000 public votes. Don't you think?

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Walt Esquivel commented

...please see this post

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ponrajasekar commented

Thanks

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yasheshb commented

Kudos to the drupal founders, contributors and community for this excellent piece of software.

Best.

Yashesh Bhatia

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cmsproducer commented

This is not only by our concerted effort to vote, but also as a result of the attention that Drupal has continued to get from the many features and benefits from the likes of IBM, Google and Packt just to name a few. In particular, the book on Drupal by Packt covers the application in a procedural and concise manner. There is a developing review of the Drupal book from Packt Publishing that explains this in detail.

Well done and let's work to not only be first next time, but to get the promising features and user-friendliness of the upcoming Drupal 5 Release.

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Geotechy commented

Drupal's Strength is scalability. It can handle multi domains: multi websites run under different databases, and it is happening without requiring multi set of same program. It uses "settings.php" corresponding to each domain, and thats it. It is another reason I need Drupal. Drupal is an ultimate CMS, and one day it will be a standard. This year it got "TIE", tomorrow it will get the whole "PIE".

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browserspot commented

This is a social bookmarking and user driven story link website developed completely in Drupal.

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dp-1 commented

Congratulations
I really feel very sad for not getting number one prize. May be fault is ours rather than Drupal's by not supporting with our strength. But it doesn’t mean we are number two. We are the best!

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cerventus commented

Drupal will do better next year.

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kannanb commented

Let me convey my regards to the drupal team on this achievement. Loss in a tie is surely equivalent to win. As the consultant of a drupal site, I feel elevated for having recommended this CMS to customers.

Once again as a teacher of CS I will try to persuade students to contribute to drupal.

Regards to the great drupal team once again. And cheers to the drupal community.

Dr. Kannan Balakrishnan

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Anonymous (not verified) commented

Congratulations to all those who make and keep making possible such a good solution as Drupal is :)

And congratulations as well to Plone that, in spite of having a much restricted community and needing a web server of it own (with the hindrance that implies), has ended third, just a bit behind two solutions like Drupal and Joomla that are extremely popular.

Well done, Plone!

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The AL commented

I think Drupal shoulda won for sure, especially over Joomla, but congrats too all of the winners!