Define Dojo Goals, Vision, and Objectives (2.0)

I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind wanting the dojo site to be like a social network. I'm immediately afraid of the idea because potential separation in the Drupal community should always be done with care. I see the Dojo as a place for people to come and learn, to teach, to help on their paths to Drupal rockstardom.

Think I somewhat gave my views on what's now I guess the 'newsletter issue -
http://drupal.org/node/206791#comment-680924

It depends what the latest definition of 'the dojo' is. Not just the site, but what are we trying to learn and accomplish here. If the scope remains a 'coding/theming' centric dojo, then this type of thing wouldn't really fit. If the dojo is also a place to learn about/keep tabs on the drupal community (what are the 'hot topic' issues, latest 'calls for action', and even things like how to be a model citizen, or trends/best practices in drupal biz and consulting), then this would be a way to do it. The big issue that keeps coming up (in this and other...uhh...issues) is that we don't want to do anything to fragment/take away from the proper channels (d.o. - g.d.o.) - The larger issue probably should be broken out into a 'dojo code of ethics/rules of the road' type discussion, but for what we're talking about here, I think it's quite simple. If we can play a role in spotlighting/keeping track of/sifting thru the immense amount of material that's found in the proper channels, that would have a great deal of value (ever think why the lullabot postcasts are very popular?). And we're not locking the info in - people can still get the content via email subscription, rss, etc. - any unique 'dojo' content can be made available on the 'planet - http://drupal.org/planet '. We have a lot more flexibility to showcase/spotlight what's already out there - we also have the ability to provide a bit more 'sizzle' to the presentation.

Will elaborate shortly, but just wanted to tie in that post...

I agree with brenda003 and see the Dojo site as basically a place where people can find out about lessons coming up and get all info/materials on past lessons as well as hosting any live sessions that we do. W should also have information and a workflow for people who wish to teach. That's about it on my list. I don't see much need for social features since we already have d.o and g.d.o.

EDIT: In response to Gus' post I would add that I do not see dd.com as needing to keep tabs on the community. That is what the existing sites are for - community. DD.com in my view is just a new tool for lesson creation and delivery that the existing sites are not set up to handle currently.

Also might be a good exercise to look at some of the things our Dojo father intended/thought about round this time last year...

Why and How and When - http://groups.drupal.org/node/2194
Dojo Projects - http://groups.drupal.org/node/2208
Discussing Growth: DrupalDojo.com/net/org? - http://groups.drupal.org/node/2786

There's a LOT of similarity in what we're discussing from Dojo2.0. What's worked? What hasn't worked (that are still good ideas)? How can we effectively move forward and maximize value to the Drupal community?

This issue queue/posting on the Dojo group is another example of how it's hard 'not' to fragment. Should this topic be discussed there also?

I think it should be a social network for drupal wannabes.

@ gusaus, yeah I honestly feel that this is more meta discussion and that should happen at g.d.o. This is not an "actionable issue" (i.e. a thing to be done) which is largely what I see this queue being used for. It would probably be best to copy this to g.d.o and close this issue.

I've made a post with my view on this discussion on g.d.o, http://groups.drupal.org/node/8066.

I'm closing this issue so that the discussion can happen there.

I changed the title and reopened this issue. Why? It's pretty difficult to move forward without having as much of a collective vision as possible. Might be best to 'meta' discuss here
(http://groups.drupal.org/node/8097), but this is a priority action issue.

I really don't think this is an a discussion for the issue queue, but I don't want to get into a closed/active war. ;-)

Project is abandoned. Closing all issues.

Defining the Dojo Project Goals and Desired Outcomes is pretty key to getting this thing going again - we'll keep this issue open until this is solid - http://groups.drupal.org/node/8097