Welcome message re-ordering

catch - August 14, 2008 - 15:54
Project:Drupal
Version:7.x-dev
Component:node.module
Category:task
Priority:normal
Assigned:Unassigned
Status:duplicate
Issue tags:Needs text review, Needs usability review, Usability
Description

Points 2 and 3 of the welcome message on install have links to drupal.org. At UMN, we had one participant end up at http://drupal.org/project/Modules - that was from admin/build/modules, but I think the principal is the same. So this patch moves the external links to the end of that text just after the support ones, tidies up the text a little, and also swaps the order themes and modules (as suggested by SteveJB on irc).

AttachmentSizeStatusTest resultOperations
welcome.patch3.34 KBIdleFailed: Failed to install HEAD.View details | Re-test

#1

swentel - August 14, 2008 - 19:27

Ok, as a long time Drupal user, I really don't care about this welcome page ;)

BUT I like the changes and the switch of point 2 and 3, it's much more cleaner and decided to do a little usability test with my girlfriend.
I asked her to get rid of the welcome message on the frontpage. At point four, her eyes fell on 'create content', she clicked, then on 'Page' and added her first post. She went back to the frontpage and the welcome message was still there.

Cause
a) She chose page, and promoted to front page is by default off.
b) Too many fieldsets to begin with, she didn't really care about all those fieldsets, went straight to save.

So if I'd change anything on this page, it would be point 4. You can click way too fast on create content, I bet a lot of people don't read on after that and don't see the that this page will go away if they promote a post to the front page (or maybe even better, alter it on settings/site-information, but I don't think this should be included).

#2

Dries - August 14, 2008 - 19:49

Looks like a good improvement to me.

#3

catch - August 14, 2008 - 20:24

swentel, I'm hoping (very much) that the gsoc help project will turn into patches which will completely change how this page works and make it not disappear any more. Having said that, if you've got ideas for point 4 that'd be great, but I'm inclined to think the current behaviour is broken and needs fixing more fundamentally than a few string tweaks.

#4

yoroy - August 14, 2008 - 20:50

Can we also fix the inconsistent labels as described in http://drupal.org/node/270918?

#5

catch - August 14, 2008 - 21:35

Yeah, but let's do it in that issue :)

#6

earnie - August 15, 2008 - 12:13

bookmark

#7

keith.smith - August 24, 2008 - 19:06

I like catch's patch. But, while I usually don't like a lot of rhetoric in my software packages, I think we miss an opportunity with this page to really set the tone for new users. I think we should spice it up big time.

Attached is another option, that I hope helps "draws" in the first-time user. I feel strongly that unlike most of our other text (since this goes away) this needs to be engaging as it can be.

It would be nice to have a bit of graphics on this page, but alas, I'm not much of an icon guy. Perhaps someone could step up and do that.

Edit: And, yes, technically, this goes far afield of the issue title. If catch prefers, I can move it out of his issue into a new "change the welcome message" issue.

Edit again: I made a screenshot.

AttachmentSizeStatusTest resultOperations
welcome_intro_change.patch5.6 KBIdleFailed: Failed to install HEAD.View details | Re-test
welcome_text.PNG52.24 KBIgnoredNoneNone

#8

Bojhan - August 24, 2008 - 23:59

Keith Smith, please make a new issue on it. Since I have a whole lot I want to comment on this.

Catch : Can you post a picture of this or the text, for those of us who don't read patch'ish.

#9

catch - August 25, 2008 - 00:18

Bojhan, here's a screenshot. Also re-rolled due to offset. Keith, I think bigger changes are better off in a new issue, since there's more general work on re-doing this page completely.

AttachmentSizeStatusTest resultOperations
welcome.png42.84 KBIgnoredNoneNone
welcome_4.patch3.82 KBIdleFailed: Failed to apply patch.View details | Re-test

#10

keith.smith - August 25, 2008 - 01:04

A new issue for my patch awaits at http://drupal.org/node/299506.

#11

Bojhan - August 25, 2008 - 21:44

@Catch: Thanks, it looks great to me. I will note down in the usability testing list that we find out whether people understand how to find modules and themes from that page.

#12

System Message - November 16, 2008 - 21:45
Status:needs review» needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

#13

lilou - November 17, 2008 - 14:23

#14

catch - January 16, 2009 - 13:46
Component:user interface text» node.module

#15

System Message - January 22, 2009 - 04:40
Status:needs review» needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

#16

catch - January 22, 2009 - 14:05
Status:needs work» needs review

#17

System Message - January 27, 2009 - 09:20
Status:needs review» needs work

The last submitted patch failed testing.

#18

yoroy - April 4, 2009 - 23:16

#19

webchick - June 2, 2009 - 03:38
Status:needs work» duplicate

Let's do a big re-think of this page at #423724: Help landing page: what should be on it, how would it look..

 
 

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