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ktleow’s picture

Copied from Drupal.org's Themes listing (Left sidebar block).

If you are looking for a simple fixed theme a suggestion is that you can start with Pixture, Wabi, or Twilight. More advanced themes are table-less, a good example of this is the core Garland theme or the Tapestry theme. For creating custom themes, the Zen theme provides a good starting point.

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maastrix’s picture

Don't make a table design. Don't even start there. You might want to try a few simple things on a local install. Just start from scratch and insert the php commands in the phptemplate. Then start building your css. By doing this, you will see what it takes and you learn how to build your own theme.

You can also take a standard css template (from oswd or openwebdesign) if you want a kickstart. But these and drupal startersthemes come with a lot of crap you don't want. Even the most simple ones.

auhlrich’s picture

I use the Framework theme. Its very good for beggining a new theme

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davidlark’s picture

... http://drupal.org/project/genesis . No official releases yet.

Also, tabled themes have their uses, so I'm openminded.

Jeff Burnz’s picture

The first dev release of Genesis from head will be available soon, it takes 12 hours for an initial release to become available.

I'll add that I am the maintainer of Wabi, Twilight and Pixture and frankly I would like them removed from that sidebar block on the themes download page. All 3 have outstanding issues that I dont have time for right now, my co-maintainer is missing in action and the project ower has effectively handed off the projects to me.

Pixture Reloaded is a far better theme all round and solves many of the issue facing the original Pixture theme, including being 100% pure CSS. FWIW I built Genesis also, so there you go.

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chx’s picture

I removed the mention of your themes, see http://drupal.org/node/323516 about it. Please do not hesitate contacting the Drupal.org webmasters in the future for a request liek this, Michelle catched your comment but you can't really count on that. Thanks for contributing such great themes to the Drupal project.
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Jeff Burnz’s picture

Thanks chx, much appreciated.

Yes, I just have been so flat out even posting an issue to d.o webmasters was put on the back burner :)

Jeff Burnz’s picture

Good question

"Is there a handbook page that lists starter themes?"

Maybe we should start writing one and do a serious comparison of the starter themes - certainly this would help clear up questions for newbies.

davidlark’s picture

... on comparison pages in general.

Perhaps this is a personality fault in myself (I've watched others jump in doing things while I try to figure out the best course of action), but I get frustrated trying different products/methods when all I need are opinions about which works best in situations. I find trialing software quite tedious, and when others have done it before I wonder if we couldn't eliminate the duplication of effort. Of course it's worse with commercial software, when I waste both time and money.

Jeff Burnz’s picture

I'll try and make time for this, I think I've used them all in some form or another over the past few months. I wanted to study all of them to see how they solved various problems, I also spent a fair amount of time looking at the issues posted against each project ;)

davidlark’s picture

Thanks. I've been using Zen, but this thread has got me thinking that I might be better off with something more simple.

Jeff Burnz’s picture

OK, I have set up a comparison site where you can switch theme (all default raw installs).

http://drupalstaging.com/starter-themes/

The Zen starterkit needs some love at the moment, I just dumped it in without proper config, I need to do some extra work for ATCK theme so thats not quite live yet.

Heres a table I am using to collect info as I move through each theme, comments welcome.

http://drupalstaging.com/starter-themes/starter-theme-comparison.html

Shortly, when I have a least a wee bit more info I'll set up the bookpage, we're not supposed to build stub pages so I need to wait a bit untill I have something reasonable to show.

michelle’s picture

Thanks for doing this. "Which theme to start with" is a common question in the -support and -themes channels. It will be nice to have a page to point them to.

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Jeff Burnz’s picture

Thanks Michelle, I should add this is for Drupal 6 and the install is 6.5 (will always be updated to latest release).

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davidlark’s picture

http://drupal.org/project/studio

Also note that drupalstaging.com is apparently no more.

Edit -- oops -- refer to handbook page below.

kimaroc’s picture

I like the Framework theme !! my favorite one ;)

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juan_g’s picture

jmburnz, thank you for your new handbook page Starter Themes Compared.