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Don't laugh. It's a serious question. I am testing Drupal Projects and Basecamp, but it does not give me the ability to edit certain areas.
I like what I see in Drupal Projects.
Are you using Drupal Projects or Basecamp to manage clients and users ? What's your opinion ?
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Good question
It is a good question, and one I run into often. Right now I'm setting up a wiki. There are several great wiki services that have the functionality in place, but they lack some features I'd like. Also, they aren't connected to my site and my user base, so users need to create new accounts. I've also looked at this issue with project work.
My two cents is that it depends on your needs. If you find a turn key service that offers what you need out of the box then go for it. Basecamp does some things very well and has a nice interface. However, if you have some time to spend, and want more flexibility, go with drupal. Drupal can replicate most functions in Basecamp, but they aren't quite as pretty...however, you could make a nice interface if you have the time and inclination.
Another good thing about Drupal is that once you get content in your system as a node, it can go anywhere. You can setup a great single system that manages clients and content. So maybe a client question and your response is relevant to their website and would make a good faq item. So push it out to the client site and viola! New page and client question answered. The possibilities are truly endless; it is mostly a question of time and needs.
easy decision
BaseCamp works out of the box.
Drupal requires you to make some changes....but with those changes comes the ability to customize.
I use drupal to manage all client interactions, document sharing, discussions about quotes, etc.
Re: Basecamp Vs Drupal Projects
I think it greatly depends on your particular background and what your workflow is like. I believe in using the best tool for the job as opposed to the "eating your own dogfood" principle.
That said, I use Drupal with contributed projects such as CiviCRM, Case Tracker, Event, Organic Groups, Wikitools, Messenger, Comment RSS, and Search (extended with OpenSearch and Search Export CSV). For notes and todo lists I've been using Tasklist and Tasklist Advanced. Notepad looks promising.
Sometimes it's actually more important for my clients to login to their client area and feel and see what Drupal can do. This is a major reason why I manage my projects within Drupal.
I find Basecamp attractive in many ways, but it is too feature limited for me ~ and the price goes up when you begin managing more than the first, free project.
I think there's a reason why Basecamp is wildly popular with web designers in particular while Drupal has traditionally appealed to programmers. Drupal swept me off my feet when I started building sites with it, but then the candlelight faded and the violin-playing minstrels went home. I've been frustrated ever since with aspects of the UI and the general difficulty of theming.
I'm interested in seeing what people add to this discussion.
Your post inspired me to
Your post inspired me to download a few of the modules you suggested to see what they were about. I'm always trying to find a better way to be productive. I didn't really like Tasklist, Tasklist Advanced or Notepad. From what I can see and how little I played with those modules, tasklist and tasklist advanced features can be handled with Case Tracker and Views, Notepad can be handled with Comments and Views.
I've been using a custom "To do" content type
Since my first post in March I've been using a custom "To do" content type with many CCK fields (like "Assigned to" and "Completed") and have integrated it with OG, Views and Event (for deadlines and email reminders). I really, really like the new Todolist module but it isn't very stable yet. Notepad hasn't had any recent development as far as I can see.
I've re-purposed Case Tracker as a dedicated Helpdesk with support tickets and helpdesk departments and it's been fantastic. The possibility of using a Case Tracker project as an OG group is pretty cool. I remember trying something like that a long time ago with Project and OG. In my experience, Case Tracker is much better suited for this than Project.
Tasklist lets you assign tasks to other users, but on a site with many projects (in the Tasklist sense, not Case Tracker or Project) people can assign tasks to people outside of their project. This isn't good if you have closed OG groups and want to prevent Tasklist tasks from leaving the group.
I step around this problem with the To do "Assigned to" field by using CCK's Node Reference with an OG-specific Views listing of Usernodes.
Todolist is awesome, thanks
Todolist is awesome, thanks for mentioning it. I've just started setting up a drupal site as a productivity tool, and I think Todolist will fit nicely into the site. There should totally be an install profile for productivity.
I wonder if there is a drupal group for productivity. I'll have to google it, to see if someone started one. The OG implementation sounds interesting too. I'll have to visit that once I get myself organized and start to incorporate customers in to the mix. Anyway, thanks again for posting what has been working for you. If you come up with any other useful modules for productivity, please post. Thanks.
Project Management module
A new Project Management project just appeared. I wonder what that will be like.
todolist is broken
Do you have it working? It isn't working for me, and I'd love to see some screenshots.
Drupal does have Unlimited
Drupal has unlimited projects.
audio/media
what's the best system if you want to have a site where clients to log in and view media files? does basecamp even have multimedia widgets like drupal does? is basecamp more secure?
Drupal can do what you want.
Drupal can do what you want. You will only really know by trying it out yourself...
I am sure Basecamp allows attachement, but privacy is not #1 on their todo list.
I tried Basecamp and got confused between the todo and milestones... but I just think it will take a little more time.
I also got errors when using the Drupal Projects.
I'm going to test a hosted delpdesk solutions like http://ubersmith.com.
Marcel
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Also testing GoPlan -
Also testing GoPlan - http://goplan.info
Seems easier than BaseCamp.
Marcel
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Active Collab VS Basecamp
If you want free roll your own. Active Collab looks promising as does Dot Project and eGroupware... I like eGroupware prettier than DotProject...
I am forced to use Basecamp
I am forced to use Basecamp every day, since my clients already have set it up. It's a most royal PITA and doesn't have half the features that project.module or casetracker.module have. Granted, it /is/ very shiny.
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shiny isn't always bad
I've started playing with casetracker... And one nice thing Basecamp does have is an easy, non-programmatic/DBA-required way to quickly add a bunch of tasks and get into the system.
I do think that casetracker, plus enough ajax/ui improvements to reduce the clickiness/pageloads to enter 5-10 projects/cases at a time would go a long way towards getting us what we need in-house. Does anyone know if casetracker is being very actively developed, or merely maintained?
SoC 2007
There's a SoC 2007 project that will extend the current Case Tracker module, IIRC.
We use JIRA at Four
We use JIRA at Four Kitchens. I really like it. Others don't.
Drupal could win!
Short stepin.
I have see a very interesting Video: (Basecamp Cloned In Drupal) and of course I did not let my hand off and started a testing on my local server. Even if the Video cannot answer and handle all dettails and tweaks necessary to getit run, shows that Drupal have all potentiality and features to deliver an exstremely powerfull platform. I hope the leading developer on Drupal.org decide to work on a full and simply to implement documentation on that project. I'm sure it will really boost Drupal implemantation worldwide.
Regards
Interesting
A really interesting watch :-)
Just for your information
As I posted here about the http://www.rockclimbr.com there was no way for me to implement. But today thanks the great http://www.lullabot.com team I was able to install and start a Drupal Basecamp Clone Project. For those who wants to know more:
Link: http://drupal.org/node/622604
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